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Unread 06-09-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: OKC
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If you are a Christian your faith should be pretty important to you. Why you'd want to marry someone that you can't share that with is beyond me.

Having said that, I'm not sure it's the government's responsibility to regulate that.

BINGO

Now, let's talk about gay marriage....

Why do you think it IS government's responsibility to regulate that? Why should the government regulate the gender, but not the religions, of the people getting married?

And before you answer that Kdbirch, I ask you to think about it a second or two. Reconsider your opinion on this matter, because it is the difference between you being a tolerant person and an intolerant one. It's not a question about whether homosexuality is a sin. It's not a question about life styles. It's a question about the degree to which you demand the government enforce your religion.

Even if Jesus was against homosexual marriages, as you suggest, does that necessarily mean that he would want the government to force his view on others? Or do you think he wants people to voluntarily comply with God's laws? You can be 100% against gay marriages, but not for the government regulating it.

The only people who should follow your God's laws are those who choose to follow it. Even your God would want that.

You have a chance here to prove you are not a bigot, and that you are tolerant. All you have to do is say, "while I am against gay marriages, I think it's not the governments place to regulate that. People should come to God on their own free will, not at the tip of the governments sword."
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Unread 06-09-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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No, it shouldn't. It might spark some controversy within the two families, but as long as they love ach other, I don't see what the problem is. Plus, one of the spouses will most likely convert to the significant other's religion.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 09:47 PM
 
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No, it shouldn't. It might spark some controversy within the two families, but as long as they love ach other, I don't see what the problem is. Plus, one of the spouses will most likely convert to the significant other's religion.
.... says one not too far off from a trip to verona.

try westside story. unsuccessfully.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 09:47 PM
 
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Just a theoretical question here - if it was illegal for Christians to marry non-Christians, how exactly would the government go about enforcing it?

Christians tend to marry Christians, but if there's a discrepancy and they still get married, I'm sure the nonbeliever would have no trouble lying. He has no moral compass, right?
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:22 PM
 
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Threre's lots of ways. You could use witnesses to testify to the defendant's admissions, for example. Or if the person was practicing a different religion, you could find evidence of that practice in their attendence at shrines, etc. It's up to the jury to believe or not to believe.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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Just a theoretical question here - if it was illegal for Christians to marry non-Christians, how exactly would the government go about enforcing it?

Christians tend to marry Christians, but if there's a discrepancy and they still get married, I'm sure the nonbeliever would have no trouble lying. He has no moral compass, right?
even if a moral compass were not available otherwise, the lack of education in the giga business could match a garbage manager and a troll feeder to make them a mega success.

imho.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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Threre's lots of ways. You could use witnesses to testify to the defendant's admissions, for example. Or if the person was practicing a different religion, you could find evidence of that practice in their attendence at shrines, etc. It's up to the jury to believe or not to believe.
So all I have to do is go to church and go through the motions to marry Christian women in this scenario, to dupe two or three of my gullible friends or acquaintances. Awesome. As long as they don't get a search warrant to find the altars, sacrificed goats and inverted pentagrams carved into my walls then I'm in the clear.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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So all I have to do is go to church and go through the motions to marry Christian women in this scenario, to dupe two or three of my gullible friends or acquaintances. Awesome. As long as they don't get a search warrant to find the altars, sacrificed goats and inverted pentagrams carved into my walls then I'm in the clear.
a case of absolute logic and infallibly relative truth?

deep thinkers ending up in absurdistan? dismiss them altogether, asap.
not in my humble opinion, for a change.
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Unread 06-10-2009, 12:46 AM
 
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So all I have to do is go to church and go through the motions to marry Christian women in this scenario, to dupe two or three of my gullible friends or acquaintances. Awesome. As long as they don't get a search warrant to find the altars, sacrificed goats and inverted pentagrams carved into my walls then I'm in the clear.

Pretty much. Criminal law is not magic. You get evidence of intent, you show it to a jury, and they make the call. There are many crimes that the same action will be either criminal or non-criminal based on the intent of the actor.

"Were you looking at those pictures for medical purposes or for sexual gratification?" for example.

But this is OT. The point was, how far into to the government do you want the church to go?
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Unread 06-10-2009, 12:57 AM
 
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The point was, how far into to the government do you want the church to go?
Not at all.
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