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OK.... so all us d@mned atheists have had our say on why we don't believe in Christianity, a supernatural god capable of ignoring or temporarily bending the laws of physics, or of making the impossible or implausible happen overnight, on a whim.
We've asked for proof. Christian believers give us quotes from the bible, or vague references to equally vague propheses that could well have come about for a thousand reasons. Or they come up with statements like "Our existance proves there's a God!"
Well, hardly. Perhaps it's in that definition of the word "proof".
So. Here's your chance to show us your personal objectivity and standards for unquestioned intellectual honesty! _______________________________________
What, exactly and specifically, would convince you that there is no God, no Jesus, no overall supernatural Christian existence, no heaven, no h$ll? What proof would you accept?
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Or, sadly, is it conceivable that there's nopossibleevidence that would ever convince you?
Even if we, for example, eventually came up with a time machine and took you back to, say, 10 million years ago and found actual Cro-Magnon men, or 50 million years, and found a bunch of saurian dinos, or if we used the same machine and neverfound a global flood or an improbable barge or a functioning Garden of Eden? Realizing that, according to YEC conjecture, if we tried to go back past about 6,000 to 10,000 years, we'd of course find nothing here. Before the Creation, don't you know....
Or if all the old testament stories were found to be nothing but allegories?
Would you then agree that it was all a great big sociological hoax? Could you agree and go on living?
I ask this because "science" has now provided a virtual mountain of evidence that, at the least, should have produced at least a glimmer, a tiny "titch" of doubt in your mind, and yet you categorically argue or dismiss or criticize it. Or, if it's particularly convincing, you claim that it's a hoax study done by some imaginary global conspiracy of bad scientists.
"There's no transitional fossils!" "Evolution's only a theory!" "God works in mysterious ways!" "Science is always biased!"
What thing(s), what evidence, what facts, would or could possibly convince you that Christianity's all a big hoax?
I'd then like to hear from the more open-minded and rational of you what you'd then do, hypothetically, if you came to that conclusion. Could you possibly go on living absent your past beliefs?
(Remember, we atheists have played this game for you several times in the past, according to your rules. Now it's your turn! Can you honestly answer this challenge?)
If you or anyone other than Jesus walks through the East Gate in Jerusalem I would no longer believe in God.
Points for giving a straight and realistic answer. I'm afraid I'm not going to support blowing open an ancient historical monument just to prove a point. Though as your article stated, Orthodox Jews would violently oppose anyway (making this a self-fulfilling prophecy).
..... just say hypothetically, that your God, .... came to you ....and confessed to you that... He was really only a highly intelligent creature from a far-off planet?
Then the question would be 'how did he come to be?'
The question of how the universe (and those living in it) came to be would still be inexplicable by any natural process.
There is no natural process that can create a universe out of nothing.
Then the question would be 'how did he come to be?'
The question of how the universe (and those living in it) came to be would still be inexplicable by any natural process.
There is no natural process that can create a universe out of nothing.
Such a process is , by definition, supernatural.
So by your theory anything we cannot yet explain must be supernatural? Do you not see the fallacy in that way of thinking?
This is the way ancient man thought when they believed, for instance that illness was cause by evil "humors", and mental illness was caused by demons. In those "good' old days how many people suffered and died because almost everything was thought to have supernatural causes?
Do not you see how dangerous this way of thinking can be? People today are still being murdered because some idiot thinks they are possessed by demons....I am amazed that there are people living in this modern world that still think that there is a supernatural cause for anything...There is no such thing....Everything has a natural explanation even if we do not yet know what it is.
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