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Old 06-30-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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Even two things that look exactly the same do not necessarily have to be the same species. People tend to forget that the insides count just as much as the outside. Specially true for plants.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:40 AM
 
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If you don't understand the term "species" you should go and study up on it before making statements about what it means.

For instance, those fish that are different colors...they could be the same genus or family, et cetera, but they aren't necessarily the same species.
I know that, I'm not sure kdbrich knows that...it was his statement originally.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Space Coast
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See, in order for us to give you examples of speciation events, we need to know how you define species. That will enable us to provide you with a myriad of examples that are meaningful to you and not "over your head". If your definition of species is inconsistent with our definition of species, then you won't be able to comprehend or accept the examples we provide, and this post will continue to go on in circles.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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If you don't understand the term "species" you should go and study up on it before making statements about what it means.

For instance, those fish that are different colors...they could be the same genus or family, et cetera, but they aren't necessarily the same species.

True. I'm more of the idea that a fish is still a fish--even if science calls it a different "species". We have yet to see a fish become a bird.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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True. I'm more of the idea that a fish is still a fish--even if science calls it a different "species". We have yet to see a fish become a bird.
So then I take it that your definition of species is this....All fish are of one species, all birds are of another, and mammals still another....Man youse gots some larnin' to do!
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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We have yet to see a fish become a bird.
This is true but we have seen human beings evolve into birdbrains.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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So then I take it that your definition of species is this....All fish are of one species, all birds are of another, and mammals still another....Man youse gots some larnin' to do!
nope.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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kdbrich wrote:

This is true but we have seen human beings evolve into birdbrains.
Now, now Montana, that is an insult to birds. Some are quite smart!
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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At this point I think we've pretty much beaten the proverbial dead horse and I don't see it getting any better.

You guys will continue to cling to your fairy tale, we'll continue to argue against it...you'll throw some barbs at us...insult us.....etc....we'll just get more worked up.

Instead I'm done with it.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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At this point I think we've pretty much beaten the proverbial dead horse and I don't see it getting any better.

You guys will continue to cling to your fairy tale, we'll continue to argue against it...you'll throw some barbs at us...insult us.....etc....we'll just get more worked up.

Instead I'm done with it.
You're the one that brought the dead horse to the party, and now suddenly you hold your nose in disgust and loudly proclaim that there's a stench in the room?!
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