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07-20-2009, 10:15 AM
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Location: Somewhere out there
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Verily I say into you, take the bible literally!
Well yeah guys, but according to His Holy Prophet and Spokeman here on the humble flat Earth, Campbell34 tells us that ALL science books are literally bursting at the seams with errors, inaccuracies and downright misleading statements supporting his VGAC (Vast Global Atheist Conspiracy).
So who are we to criticize, I say!
By comparison, you should just leave the poor little well-meaning bible alone, wouldn't you say? I mean, most of it's authors kudunt evn ryte currektly, and it took King James, working into the night, to correct it (oh, and delete a paragraph or two soz he could have his way with a few more wimin!).
Such vast corrective actions have, over time, removed a lot of the earlier huge and glaring discrepancies. BTW, I believe the Q'Ran is actually far better organized and more logically laid out. More believable if you will.
Perhaps that's why, amongst the world's huge and growing uneducated population (the breeding grounds for abject obedience to any religion, of course...) Islam is taking over from the confusion of Christianity.
Whereas here in North America and Western Europe, Christianity's followers fall as education increases. Part of that is no doubt due to the many obvious errors in the good old bible. The bible's errors upon errors make it an easy target for those who prefer logical and objective analysis.
The non-acolytic approach perhaps you'd call it...
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07-20-2009, 10:23 AM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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0.3%? That is infinitesimal in comparison to the number of folks that are seeing the truth and abandoning their religion.
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07-20-2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
0.3%? That is infinitesimal in comparison to the number of folks that are seeing the truth and abandoning their religion.
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Not only that, but consider the source. Hardly an unbiased one. Now, if it were a study done by a source that was not affiliated with any religion, then I might give it some credence.
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07-20-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Predos
Ah, the typical theist one sided argument. If you can't prove it didn't happen, it must have. My buybull says so.
Of course when faced with provided facts, the theist then claims them false because it is not proved by his buybull.
The theist attemps to go into the game with the outcome predetermined to his satisfaction, regardless of truth. Never notices how lame this makes them look.
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So I'll just take that as a "no".
Next?
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07-20-2009, 10:40 AM
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Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
0.3%? That is infinitesimal in comparison to the number of folks that are seeing the truth and abandoning their religion.
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It's not infinitesimal compared to the number of atheist. If any other group representing .5% of people had similar stats they'd look rather pitiful.
As for this "I'm proselytizing" and "seeing the truth" stuff you might as well be Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe some people just don't want what you're selling? (I considered atheism for years, sort-of was for a bit, but at this point that's dead in me. I don't find it to be "true" and even if it were than we're better off in falsity)
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07-20-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercury Cougar
Not only that, but consider the source. Hardly an unbiased one. Now, if it were a study done by a source that was not affiliated with any religion, then I might give it some credence.
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Umm you are maybe getting confused by the word "Pew." The Pew Research Center is not a religious group or affiliated to any religious group. The name comes from the founder of an oil company, Joseph N. Pew.
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07-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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Location: PA
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Originally Posted by achickenchaser
Well lets see here:
God creates light on the first day. But he doesn't create any light producing objects until the fourth day  And there's the whole thing about the moon.
That's just two things off the first page of Genesis. I'm sure you could find thousands of others if you take the time to look.
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Why does God need to produce a light producing object first? I think it make sense that he invents light before the flashlight object to shine it. This is not a contradiction, it is just that you think that God is bound by the laws of this universe, where he created the laws of this universe.
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07-20-2009, 10:57 AM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Thomas R.
It's not infinitesimal compared to the number of atheist. If any other group representing .5% of people had similar stats they'd look rather pitiful.
As for this "I'm proselytizing" and "seeing the truth" stuff you might as well be Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe some people just don't want what you're selling? (I considered atheism for years, sort-of was for a bit, but at this point that's dead in me. I don't find it to be "true" and even if it were than we're better off in falsity)
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To begin with, I don't know where you got that figure .5%, or what you mean by it, but 16.1 % of people in the US are non religious, and it is the fastest growing group both in absolute terms and percentage. Your theory that atheists are joining religions en mass is false. Where do you think all these new non religious people are coming from?
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07-20-2009, 11:03 AM
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Location: PA
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Originally Posted by CriTAUcal
What if the Bible has many errors?
What if the Bible had many contradictions?
If truth is what really matters, how could one go about explaining how a book that's said to have been inspired by an all knowing Creator, could possibly have errors and contradictions?
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The bible is considered to be error free in its origin form in its original language. Alot of problems that people have are with the translations which are not holy or inspired in and of themselves.
The bible can tell a falsehood. Because the bible is the truth, it will relay the lies of those it is talking about. Man is fallible and is full of errors, so when the bible refers to something pertaining to man, it is including all of our human errors, misconseptions, false beliefs, etc.
What is important about the bible is that it shows Gods relationship to man. Even though we have sinned and separated ourselves from God. He has always made a way that humans can be united with him.
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07-20-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas R.
It's not infinitesimal compared to the number of atheist. If any other group representing .5% of people had similar stats they'd look rather pitiful.
As for this "I'm proselytizing" and "seeing the truth" stuff you might as well be Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe some people just don't want what you're selling? (I considered atheism for years, sort-of was for a bit, but at this point that's dead in me. I don't find it to be "true" and even if it were than we're better off in falsity)
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You can't be "sort of" an atheist.
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