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Old 08-05-2009, 10:21 PM
 
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You are a deceiver, a slanderer, and have nothing whatsoever to add to the debate of explanations from young earthers.
You offer nothing but whimsical opinion, hoaxes, and fraud for any debate, the farcical list of Baughs alleged "credentials" included.

I win, you FAIL again.

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Compared to Charles Darwin, the lightweight, non scientist, lazy, non-mathematical, non-scientist;
Darwin has thousands of professionals with LEGITIMATE degrees in everything from microbiliogy to paleontology backing him up.

What's Baugh got? Nothing. He is a laughing stock, a joke, a non-person with no credibility or credentials whatsoever who has manageed to convince people like you that his pseudoscience is real. I do hope you ahve paid for some of his amterials, the thought of you supporting a charleton, for some odd reason, makes me smile.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:29 PM
 
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So who is Darwin? -just a little nothing, a nobody, who knew nothing, understood nothing, and who is debunked in all true science; yet you follow this debunked nothing, this nobody, and glory in his shameless vanity, making yourself out to be wise in doing so, and showing for all the eternal ages your foolishness.
Ahh, the ol' ad hominem; last bastion of the intellectually inept.

Who Darwin was is irrelevant. Even if he was a wife beating, child molesting serial killer, it doesn't change a thing about his theory or the mountains of knowledge that TRUE science has verified and has improved and built upon it 150 years hence. Evolution is still a FACT.

And even if evolution were proven false tomorrow, The Bible would still be an error-ridden book of fairytales. Jesus/Yeshua, still a rippoff of Mithras and a dozen other messiah figures. Christianity still a sham.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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Ahh, the ol' ad hominem; last bastion of the intellectually inept.

Who Darwin was is irrelevant. Even if he was a wife beating, child molesting serial killer, it doesn't change a thing about his theory..
You are late to the party. Shooting the messenger has been being played by the evolutionists, and they are getting tit-for-tat.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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You are late to the party. Shooting the messenger has been being played by the evolutionists, and they are getting tit-for-tat.
Every single one of your "messengers" is dead in the trenches, exposed as charletons.

You ahve yet to disprove simple facts as discovered by thousands of legitimate scientists, including Christians.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:07 PM
 
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Darwin has thousands of professionals with LEGITIMATE degrees in everything from microbiliogy to paleontology backing him up.
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Growing list of scientists who consider young earth creationism (YEC) a fact and evolution as bunk
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Growing list of scientists who consider young earth creationism (YEC) a fact and evolution as bunk


... rest assured there are well studied, hard working, credible, peer reviewed, well published scientists who claim YEC as a fact. No more sweeping statements by the opposition. No more.
source & source & source
& source
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:16 PM
 
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Darwin didn't do math, couldn't have learned physics, and couldn't hold a candle to Dr Walter Brown. He also could not have held a debate with him and won. Dr Brown offers to debate anyone -see below.

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About the Author
Walt Brown received a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), where he was a National Science Foundation Fellow. He has taught college courses in physics, mathematics, and computer science. Brown is a retired Air Force full colonel, West Point graduate, and former Army Ranger and paratrooper. Assignments during his 21 years of military service included: Director of Benét Laboratories (a major research, development, and engineering facility); tenured associate professor at the U.S. Air Force Academy; and Chief of Science and Technology Studies at the Air War College. For much of his life Walt Brown was an evolutionist, but after years of study, he became convinced of the scientific validity of creation and a global flood. Since retiring from the military, Dr. Brown has been the Director of the Center for Scientific Creation and has worked full time in research, writing, and teaching on creation and the flood.
For those who wish to know more about Walt Brown, a new book (Christian Men of Science: Eleven Men Who Changed the World by George Mulfinger and Julia Mulfinger Orozco) devotes a chapter to Brown. It may be read by clicking here.
Written Debate
The issue is: Does the scientific evidence favor creation or evolution? Dr. Brown’s standing offer for a strictly scientific, written, and publishable debate is on page 420. Note that a few initially agreed to a strictly scientific debate, but later changed their minds, insisting they would only take part if the exchange included religion. One evolutionist is so upset that a written debate will not include religion that he now misleads by saying that Walt Brown has refused to debate him. (Correspondence in our files shows how he no longer wanted a strictly scientific debate after reading the 6th edition of this book.) Dr. Brown has consistently maintained his position for 28 years: the debate should be limited to scientific evidence. If someone says, “Walt Brown has refused to debate,” we suggest you ask to see that person’s signed debate agreement.

Recorded Phone Debate
For anyone who disagrees with the hydroplate theory (explained in Part II of this book), the recorded phone debate is appropriate. Anyone, regardless of their scientific credentials, can engage Dr. Brown, provided they have read the theory. For details, see page 423

This is the online edition of In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood, 8th Edition (2008), by Dr. Walt Brown. It is designed to be read online.
Copyright © 1995–2008, Center for Scientific Creation. All rights reserved.
In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - index.html
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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More BS....


YouTube - List of Scientists Rejecting Evolution- Do they really?
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It's really strange how some Christians get the scientific reality of the world, i.e.; my first Biological Anthropology professor who had no problem reconciling her belief system with evolution, which she taught as fact, not as some abstract concept thought up by a few non-believers, and then some get so caught up in their creation myth that they cannot even begin to see the infeasibilty of the entire scenario.

Wacko...
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Nice list.

Either men long dead, known YECer pseudoscientists, or fields not related to science and/or evolution whatsoever. And even padding that list in such a manner, it doesn't even approach the number of real scientists who fully support and endorse Evolution.

Keep being this lame, and pretty soon you'll need crutches.

Oh, and your precious Doctor Brown (another YECer) can be included with your list above of total non-relationship to Evolution. How in your hell you can equate mechanical engineering with Evolution is beyond me. Just another YECer who doesn't know his own ass from a blade of grass.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Lets look at this list. How many are not even scientists, and then how many of the scientists that are on the list are not scientists in a related field?

Who is left?
I was pretty generous in leaving some of these on the list with regards to their field, after all, this was just a cursory look. How many of these even know they are on this list? How many were around before evolution was discovered. How many are in the same category of Dr. Kurt Wise? He acknowledges that the evidence in science does show the ancient age of the earth and that the geologic record certainly appears exactly how it would look if evolution took place, but just refuses to believe it because he feels the Bible demands a young earth. At least he is honest about it.

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