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Anybody who claims what happens to them after death is dillusional period.
You have no right to say this and insist on it; you don't believe it, but not everything you can ascribe to dillusion or haullucination.
The words of many who tell such a thing, is certainly due to such hallucinations,
but you cannot say all that is hallucination; there are many things cannot be explained in this way: like telling about people whom they did not know before, and in case you don't believe one man, you cannot unbelieve all of them.
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Sounds exactly what I said, lack of oxygen and hallucinations, I can give an entire account of dreams people have had near death and at death and are 100% convinced what happened to them was real.
Not everything you hear in this category you can explain it by this lack of oxygen and hallucinations; if you try to take the words of some of them seriously, you may discover a lot of things.
And I tell you something: this category of experiences bears to you and others some fear and you feel better and more comfortable to say: there isn't anything, and everything is hallucination.
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As is the story above, it's also anectdotal, if he took some pictures or a DNA sample then maybe i would believe the little story.
How can he take any pictures when he is a soul? or will the DNA sampling be possible for souls?
But -in this World reality, some people had their sensitive camera films detected some extraordinary observations; although some deny this.
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What soul, based on what?
The soul is basesd on:
1- We are told about it in the heavenly books: the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran.
2- It is logical and reasonable that a soul exists which is the true man and the body will be like a board of wood when the soul departs from the body by death.
3- When you say: "I am a doctor", what do you mean by your saying: "I am"; do you mean your body is the doctor? When you say I myself: do you mean your body?
4- When observing a living man: then this man died before your eyes: what is the difference between his body while he lived and just when he died?
5- There have been many observations about the soul, but of course you incline to disbelieve it, unless you encounter it yourself, which you may also conceal and keep secret; so have you yourself faced any extra-ordinary observation related to the soul world; tell us and we shall discuss it.
Man after Death
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What is man?
The soul is basesd on:
1- We are told about it in the heavenly books: the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran.
2- It is logical and reasonable that a soul exists which is the true man and the body will be like a board of wood when the soul departs from the body by death.
3- When you say: "I am a doctor", what do you mean by your saying: "I am"; do you mean your body is the doctor? When you say I myself: do you mean your body?
4- When observing a living man: then this man died before your eyes: what is the difference between his body while he lived and just when he died?
5- There have been many observations about the soul, but of course you incline to disbelieve it, unless you encounter it yourself, which you may also conceal and keep secret; so have you yourself faced any extra-ordinary observation related to the soul world; tell us and we shall discuss it.
Man after Death
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What is man?
That is not evidence, it is simply writings by human beings in a several thousand year old book.
So what is the soul based off? What evidence do you have?
Proof? Other than your error filled and politically motivated bible, of course. Any photos, writing (first person) non biased witnesses? Anything that would hold up in court? Or is this just another expression of a belief in myths?
Unfortunately for him, a story is all he has. No evidence other than myth. He does not seem to understand that "near death" stories about the "afterlife" have a major flaw. "Near death" is not death.
...like telling about people whom they did not know before, and in case you don't believe one man, you cannot unbelieve all of them.
How can he take any pictures when he is a soul? or will the DNA sampling be possible for souls?
But -in this World reality, some people had their sensitive camera films detected some extraordinary observations; although some deny this.
Those are two interesting things you said. First, can you give a modern time example of someone who told about people they did not know? I'm asking you to explain so I can better know if this is maybe the same as someone I once met a long time ago.
Second, what kind of extraordinary observations did the sensitive camera films of some people detect?
It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back (from returning to life), but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.
That is not evidence, it is simply writings by human beings in a several thousand year old book.
No matter it is several thousand years old or few years old: the truth is the truth; moreover, it is God that revealed the heavenly books: the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran, and He commanded that men should write it down. These books were and particularly the Quran now is the word of God, not the word of men.
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So what is the soul based off? What evidence do you have?
Read what I told you above; and I add:
The sleeping: it indicates the existence of the soul; because the sleeping [deeply] is like the dead: does not hear, does not see and does not perceive anything round about him: to the extent that he may be in danger and he is not aware.
So what has happened, other than his soul has departed temporarily from his body, then it will return to the body and he will awake.
In addition, his organs are working while he is asleep: the heart, the respiratory movement, the intestinal movement, the kidney working, etc and inspite of all that he is unaware temprarily.
The perception: as long as we live, we perceive things round about us, and we are aware of New York, Chicago and other places inspite of that we are not there; how can this be unless there is an alert soul?
The movement and will: How can man move, then repose, sit and stand and do various activities unless there is a soul that drives his body: like the driver of the car?
The eyesight and hearing: How can the eye see? it is merely a camera: does the camera see, or only it has the light reflection and reception? Then why does man see when he is awake and alive, and he does not see while he is dead or sleeping? Inspite of the existence of the eye and the nerves in the sleeping body and the body of the man who just died.
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