Evolutions Family Tree Theory Collapsing (prophet, sunday, service, Adam and Eve)
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True, but the original paragraph not only can be applied in that way, it cannot truly be applied to Darwin. He researched, used the scientific method, and published his results. How, then is he judged not to be a scientist, other than tossing out accusations of being some kind of 'reprobate'?
I can only assume that it reflects the idea of creationists that it is some sort of closed circle, the membership of which qualifies one as an authority figure whose pronouncements are to be accepted without question. That is hardly the case. That is why Creationists funding colleges where creationist non -science is taught will not make scientists of Creationists, no matter how many certificates they dish out.
Darwin was not a scientist! and Darwin's fables have all been debunked by those who are evolutionists, themselves.
Darwin had only a Bachelor of Arts in Theology, and he took the easy course because of his weakness in math. He was a glutton in those days, and belonged to a club dubbed the "glutton's" club. He lied from the time he began speaking, inventing whoppers from his own imagination.
Darwin was a reprobate as to true Biblical Theology, being a child and grandchild of Freethinkers.
Last edited by yeshuasavedme; 08-24-2009 at 09:46 AM..
(There is one fact that no creationist can talk their way out of. Modern species are only found in modern strata?)
Well here again you can only believe your statement, if you are willing to ignore all that other evidence that is out there.
Fossil men were discovered in strata where humans were not suppose to be found. Species thought to have been long-ago ancestors of the human race have been dated to recent years. And this fact has created more confusion among scientists. Such evidence is spoken of in the link below.
Fossil men were discovered in strata where humans were not suppose to be found.
First of all your link is to a creationist website and none of them have any credibility. Yes, sometimes the positions of fossils can be found in unexpected places and there's a logical explanation for it. Human activity such as mining, excavating dirt for highways or any sort of construction project, digging wells, or any one of countless ways in which we alter the landscape can easily lead to a plant or animal ending up in much older strata. Miners have died when the walls and ceiling caved in and found many years later. Natural processes can also occur from flooding, erosion, having the strata buckle up and flip over, etc. It's only natural that there will be an occasional fossil that will be dug up due to any one of these explanations.
Consider this very simple and easy to understand fact. IF ALL PLANTS AND ANIMALS HAD COEXISTED IN ONE TIME PERIOD THEIR FOSSILS WOULD BE INTERMIXED ALL OVER THE WORLD! Think about that for a minute. They're not intermixed but are found in distinct layers that can be dated. The fact that a fossil found in an unexpected layer of strata is such a rare event that you have a creationist website trying to list them actually makes your case weaker.
First of all your link is to a creationist website and none of them have any credibility. ...
Consider this very simple and easy to understand fact. IF ALL PLANTS AND ANIMALS HAD COEXISTED IN ONE TIME PERIOD THEIR FOSSILS WOULD BE INTERMIXED ALL OVER THE WORLD! Think about that for a minute. They're not intermixed but are found in distinct layers that can be dated. The fact that a fossil found in an unexpected layer of strata is such a rare event that you have a creationist website trying to list them actually makes your case weaker.
Darwin has no credibility, but there are many creationist scientists who are fully credible in their fields of specific studies in scientific disciplines, like Dr Walter Brown; but you and your fellows in beliefs in fables of the false doctrines of evolution will not accept anyone but those who agree with your denial of God and/or of His Word. You accept Darwin as the founder of your fables of evolution in modern times, and yet Darwin was a nothing in science, nor in understanding of genetics was he anything, and Darwin was a liar, a Freethinker, with a BA in theology, and he was a true reprobate.
And there are many discovered sites where land dwelling and water dwelling creatures are jumbled up and mingled together and fossilized, by the catastrophe of the flood of Noah's day. If you were not so determined to believe a lie you would be able to look and see those sites and know the truth, but you are determined to believe only a lie and have no heart for truth, itself. You are pleased to believe that you know it all, while you breathe borrowed breath from YHWH the Creator, who stamped His manufacturer's name on each breath you draw and expel, from the time of your coming from the womb of your mother and the first intake of this lent breath stamped with His name, YAH,- to the time you yield the last -WEH of it, when He demands it back, and you go to where you will await the judgment, where you will account to Jesus Christ [who is YHWH come in flesh], for each breath He gave you, while you had your being intact, with body, spirit, and soul.
Last edited by yeshuasavedme; 08-24-2009 at 10:58 AM..
It's apparent that Tom will never understand the requirements of credibility. His only links are either...
1) Info from the various Christian websites which have proven to have ZERO credibility. After careful review by myself and countless, countless far more diligent others, there's always lies, mis-quotes and a lack of any academic credibility;
2) carefully (or carelessly?) mis-quoted information, such as we note here;
3) relentless & tiresome re-statement of known erroneous facts, such as his endless proofs using improper "aging techniques" to "prove" the Acambara fakes. He either doesn't "get" it, or can't allow these thoughts into his head because to do so would open it all to question.
4) Selective Acceptances of Convenience. you know; the study hints at some important Creationist ideal, but also clearly notes the find was also, using modern dating methods, 150 million years old.
That key part is selectively ignored or not quoted, as any truly open-minded researcher would do, stating both his own, and the study's limitations.
BTW, Dusty, I loved your quote, which is very appropo here:
"Ignorance is easily maintained, knowledge takes work."
A new skull discovery made in the African republice of Chad now has Bernard Wood, of George Washington University, Washingtone DC, now suggesting that this new discovery is giving strength to the arguement that humans (DID NOT EVOLVE IN A LINEAR PROGRESSION FROM APES THAT ROAMED THE PLANET 10 MILLION YEARS AGO.)
This same discovery, also has the Editor and paleontologist Henry Gee of Nature magazine saying, and this is a quote.
Whatever the outcome, the skull shows, once and for all, that the (OLD IDEA OF A MISSING LINK IS BUNK...) It should now be quite plain that the very idea of the missing link, always shaky, is now completely untenable.
The theory of Evolution is collapsing before our very eyes, and soon, those who have embraced this theory will be like soldiers on the field of battle. Only to discover, that their commanders and generals have left them alone on the front lines. And alone, they will try to defend a theory that is also untenable. Their old beliefs, and old ideas will be like so much watered downed ammunition. That ammunition gave them a feeling of safety, until is was revealed, that it was useless when needed.
News in Science - A heady discovery - 15/07/2002 (http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s605620.htm - broken link)
How do you read that and disqualify evolution? It only modifies the TOE it does not falsify it.
Darwin has no credibility, but there are many creationist scientists who are fully credible in their fields of specific studies in scientific disciplines, like Dr Walter Brown; but you and your fellows in beliefs in fables of the false doctrines of evolution will not accept anyone but those who agree with your denial of God and/or of His Word. You accept Darwin as the founder of your fables of evolution in modern times, and yet Darwin was a nothing in science, nor in understanding of genetics and was a liar, a Freethinker, with a BA in theology, and who was a true reprobate.
And there are many discovered sites where land dwelling and water dwelling creatures are jumbled up and mingled together and fossilized, by the catastrophe of the flood of Noah's day. If you were not so determined to believe a lie you would be able to look and see those sites and know the truth, but you are determined to believe only a lie and have no heart for truth, itself. You are pleased to believe that you know it all, while you breathe borrowed breath from YHWH the Creator, who stamped His manufacturer's name on each breath you draw and expel, from the time of your coming from the womb of your mother and the first intake of this lent breath stamped with His name, YAH,- to the time you yield the last -WEH of it, when He demands it back, and you go to where you will await the judgment, where you will account to Jesus Christ [who is YHWH come in flesh], for each breath He gave you, while you had your being intact, with body, spirit, and soul.
Walter T. Brown is an American engineer and young earth creationist (YEC), who is the director of his own ministry called the Center for Scientific Creation. How is engineering related to evolution?
You are pleased to believe that you know it all, while you breathe borrowed breath from YHWH the Creator, who stamped His manufacturer's name on each breath you draw and expel, from the time of your coming from the womb of your mother and the first intake of this lent breath stamped with His name, YAH,- to the time you yield the last -WEH of it, when He demands it back, and you go to where you will await the judgment, where you will account to Jesus Christ [who is YHWH come in flesh], for each breath He gave you, while you had your being intact, with body, spirit, and soul.
Your statements are just plain weird. Who is yeshua anyway and what did he save you from? I just breathed in and out and was unable to locate the stamped manufacturer's name. I noticed that you also gave me my notice of condemnation when I'll get slapped with eternal damnation simply because I don't believe in invisible beings.
The fact is that I gave a sensible response to a statement that Campbell34 had made which you were unable to respond to with anything of any substance. There is no evidence whatsoever of a worldwide flood because there's never been one. The fact remains that newer strata contains fossils of modern plants and animals and we don't find fossils of chihuahua's mixed in with fossils of dinosaurs.
That's right, he was a naturalist. A pretty darn observant one, too. Have you read any of his work?
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