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04-30-2007, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by irishmom
So you don't plan to acknowledge that baptism for forgiveness of sin is in the bilble that you devoutly believe in? Interesting.
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Because only the blood of Jesus can forgive sin NOT baptism.
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04-30-2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spunky1
Yes, and you have to make a decision for yourself, you have to understand what you are doing when you accept Christ and are baptized. It is really pretty simple. 
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Or if you are Catholic you are baptized into the church and then Confirm later on when you are old enough to commit for yourself. 
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04-30-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA
Because only the blood of Jesus can forgive sin NOT baptism.
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Wow we are finally back to the original question! If the Bible is the word of God and in the bible it says that the act of baptism takes away sin....then how can what you say be right?
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04-30-2007, 07:19 PM
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Well, against my better judgement, and my earlier statement that I would not respond. . .
The Bible never speaks of being "baptized into the church" and there is nothing in the Bible about being "confirmed." This is catholic teaching but it is found nowhere in the Bible.
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04-30-2007, 07:25 PM
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04-30-2007, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spunky1
Well, against my better judgement, and my earlier statement that I would not respond. . .
The Bible never speaks of being "baptized into the church" and there is nothing in the Bible about being "confirmed." This is catholic teaching but it is found nowhere in the Bible.
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Well actually I never said that the bible said you are baptized into the church I said the bible said you are baptized for the forgiveness of sin. The other poster said that is not in the bible and I posted where it is. She still says it's wrong.
You are right that the sacriment of Confirmation is Catholic in practice but based on teachings of scripture. If you want I'll post the explanation for those as well. Catholics don't baptize babies to "put them into the church" it's to forgive original sin, but after baptism they have officially entered the Catholic faith and are promised to be raised in the faith by their parents and Godparents. This is part of the ceremony but not part of the act of baptism itself. Confirmation is a second baptism of sorts when the child is old enough to accept the Holy Spirit on their own, and again although not part of the act they are then viewed as adult members of the church.
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04-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DBNN
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Good one! 
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04-30-2007, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by irishmom
Wow we are finally back to the original question! If the Bible is the word of God and in the bible it says that the act of baptism takes away sin....then how can what you say be right?
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1 Peter 3:21" And this is a picture of baptism, which now saves you BY THE POWER OF JESUS CHRIST RESURRECTION. Baptism is not a removal of dirt from your body, it is an appeal to God from a clean conscience".
Acts 22:16 " And now why delay, get up and be baptized and have your sins washed away CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD".
If baptism can save you, then Jesus would have died on the cross for nothing.
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04-30-2007, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA
1 Peter 3:21" And this is a picture of baptism, which now saves you BY THE POWER OF JESUS CHRIST RESURRECTION. Baptism is not a removal of dirt from your body, it is an appeal to God from a clean conscience".
Acts 22:16 " And now why delay, get up and be baptized and have your sins washed away CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD".
If baptism can save you, then Jesus would have died on the cross for nothing.
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Look at what you quoted and then this quote:
Thus on the day of Pentecost, Peter told the crowds, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38),
Now we are back to the original question of this thread...if the bible is the word of God why would it contradict itself....how is that not man's interpretation of the bible?
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04-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by irishmom
I don't believe the bible was written by God. I do believe that the stories and writings by the men who wrote the bible witnessed the things they wrote about, but that their writings and interpretations of those events were influenced by the times they were writing in and by man himself.
Again I am not attacking anyone's beliefs just debating here. But I do think you can believe in God and still question man's influence on what is generally accepted as His word.
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I agree with you.
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