Evolution vs. Creationism.... (hell, atheist, agnostic, paranormal)
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Evolution has been the widely accepted scientific theory of how we got here. It is backed up by science.
Creationism has been the religious explanation as to how we got here. Not just in the Christian religion but many others have relied on the use of Gods and Godesses to explain why things are.
Evolution is undoubtedly the most plausible way to explain the question: How did we get here?
My question for debate: Why can't it be both? Why can't evolution have been God's way of creation? In my mind there was no clock measuring how long a day was, so why can't evolution be accepted by religion as to how we got here?
Why can't it be both? Why can't evolution have been God's way of creation?
I think that's a very reasonable question because it accepts the reality of evolution and tries to make sense of everything as a whole. This is basically the Catholic position on the issue and I'll at least give them credit for thinking rationally about it. I personally don't believe in God because I see no evidence that supports it but when you pose a question like that it shows that you're thinking in an open minded way and trying to understand the meaning of life and I certainly can't fault you for that.
All my Catholic friends explain it this way, too. I think a lot of the more mainstream religious groups (ie, Anglicans) do, as well. And thank God that we finally interjected some science and logic into religion!
My question to atheists and agnostics is-what do you think about "first cause?" I hope I can articulate what I'm thinking adequately...obviously, no matter where your belief or lack of is, you have to acknowledge (unless I'm missing something here) that somewhere along the line that there was "an effect without a cause" which defies our logic how it could ever be. Do you think a single molecule existed somewhere in space that got evolution started or what? For me, if I have to accept "an effect without a cause" somewhere along the line, and I think I do. else how does reality exist at all?, it seems more believable to me to believe in a Creator (God) who is beyond my understanding than just some physical thing that had no cause. In other words, what do you as an agnostic or atheist think the first cause was?
My question for debate: Why can't it be both? Why can't evolution have been God's way of creation? In my mind there was no clock measuring how long a day was, so why can't evolution be accepted by religion as to how we got here?
In a nutshell, the Bible is either true, or it isn't.
God either created man, or He didn't.
Thanks for the topic....we should do an office pool on how many posts it will take it to get off-topic. But the intent is great!
My question to atheists and agnostics is-what do you think about "first cause?"
I'm agnostic and my answer to your question is that I don't know. And you know what? That's okay. I'm willing to accept that I don't know the answer to everything. There are a lot of mysteries to the universe, and the best way to find the answers is through science. You ask some good questions, but just because something cannot currently be explained adequately does not mean that it defies the laws of nature or must require a paranormal explanation.
To me, the arguments between Evolutionists and Creationists can be compared to two people arguing over how Michelangelo sculpted his statue of David. The Creationist cries, "Michelangelo created that statue!" The Evolutionist cries, "No! Hammers and chisels created that statue!"
The fact is: They're both right. But they're so eager to prove the other wrong that they never really listen to what the other is saying.
To me, the arguments between Evolutionists and Creationists can be compared to two people arguing over how Michelangelo sculpted his statue of David. The Creationist cries, "Michelangelo created that statue!" The Evolutionist cries, "No! Hammers and chisels created that statue!"
The fact is: They're both right. But they're so eager to prove the other wrong that they never really listen to what the other is saying.
Excellent answer and analogy!
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