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Some scientifically illiterate biblical literalists often claim that the Earth is the center of the solar system, indeed of the entire universe. Why? Because the bible ambiguously tells us so. Now modern observations, not the least of which was Kepler's painstaking observations, measurements and calculations, irrefutibly show it for what it is; planets orbiting in elliptical orbits, logically, around the huge grav-pull of the sun.
To suggest, even casually, that the Earth would have sufficient grav-mass to manage and capture such massive bodies as Jupiter, the Sun, Saturn, etc. is to show an amazing lack of even the most basic education in the astro-sciences, Newtonian astrophysics and the greater world around us.
It portends of their larger generalized thinking and intriquing and shady requirements for evidence and proof.
But, in the spirit of true scientific honesty, we're always ready to review some intrepid new mind's thoughts on the subject. All they have to do is submit their paper, where they categorically and mathematically show where Kepler went so horribly wrong, and if it's valid, then scientists will investigate further, and the entire world as we know it will be re-considered.
Yep; spacecraft will suddenly crash, explanetary exploration landers will miss their targets entirely, and the sun will wing off due to huge uncontrolled centripetal forces, to a new and wonderful existance, all alone in the universe.
Of course, simple yelling of denials and insults in the background will not be tolerated!
Here's a great link to a spectacular website that lets you play with the orbits and planets. The author also provides multiple links to other complex topics, all for the curious, those who wish to move ahead in their understanding of the world around us.
PS: this one takes a bit of time to "build" before you can play with it. Be patient! Like science always is!
Oh, and here's part of he JPL website, which provides a simplistic, layperson's explanation of solar mechanics. Based on that liar, Kepler, no doubt...
(Oh, and BTW, here, for the general edification of our more interested viewers, is a picture of "mirrors" in action, plus some proven solar facts. Damn; those mirrors are heavy, man! and HOT!: http://www.nineplanets.org/sol.html)
Last edited by rifleman; 09-14-2009 at 12:19 PM..
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Some scientifically illiterate biblical literalists often claim that the Earth is the center of the solar system, indeed of the entire universe. Why? Because the bible ambiguously tells us so. Now modern observations, not the least of which was Kepler's painstaking observations, measurements and calculations, irrefutibly show it for what it is; planets orbiting in elliptical orbits, logically, around the huge grav-pull of the sun.
To suggest, even casually, that the Earth would have sufficient grav-mass to manage and capture such massive bodies as Jupiter, the Sun, Saturn, etc. is to show an amazing lack of even the most basic education in the astro-sciences, Newtonian astrophysics and the greater world around us.
It portends of their larger generalized thinking and intriquing and shady requirements for evidence and proof.
But, in the spirit of true scientific honesty, we're always ready to review some intrepid new mind's thoughts on the subject. All they have to do is submit their paper, where they categorically and mathematically show where Kepler went so horribly wrong, and if it's valid, then scientists will investigate further, and the entire world as we know it will be re-considered.
Yep; spacecraft will suddenly crash, explanetary exploration landers will miss their targets entirely, and the sun will wing off due to huge uncontrolled centripetal forces, to a new and wonderful existance, all alone in the universe.
Of course, simple yelling of denials and insults in the background will not be tolerated!
Here's a great link to a spectacular website that lets you play with the orbits and planets. The author also provides multiple links to other complex topics, all for the curious, those who wish to move ahead in their understanding of the world around us.
PS: this one takes a bit of time to "build" before you can play with it. Be patient! Like science always is!
Oh, and here's part of he JPL website, which provides a simplistic, layperson's explanation of solar mechanics. Based on that liar, Kepler, no doubt...
(Oh, and BTW, here, for the general edification of our more interested viewers, is a picture of "mirrors" in action, plus some proven solar facts. Damn; those mirrors are heavy, man! and HOT!: The Sun)
Hi Rifleman,
What are the bible verses that say the earth is the center of the solar system/universe?
What are the bible verses that say the earth is the center of the solar system/universe?
He doesn't know them, but I do.
Genesis 1
Day 1: earth a water mass, in darkness, and light called into being -and the evening and morning were day 1.
Day 2: the waters divided [no land mass yet] by the heaven/s [firmament] being stretched out between them, which stretched out the light created on day 1, when there was no heaven and the evening and the morning were day 2.
Day 3: dry land mass of one piece, with one body of water, [and smaller seas in the land masses, like the Mediterranean Sea, as pr Jasher and Enoch]....grasses, herbs, fruit trees.. and the evening and the morning were day 3
Day 4 the sun, moon, stars and the planets made and set in the stretched out heaven/s, and the evening and the morning were day 4.
There was no heaven when the light was called into being on day 1.
The heaven was formed between the stretched out, divided waters, on day 2. There was no sun, moon, stars, or planets when the heavens were stretched out on day 2.
the Truth, like God's holy Light, comes burning through the heavens!
I knew our heroine would show up and clarify for me. I didn't even need to lift a finger; she has it at her beck and call! Frankly, I don't quite see the text that confirms this geocentric concept, but perhaps YSM can further illuminate for us all?
As a topic teaser: Next on the DA (Debunking Agenda) will be to review and consider the concept, also presented in an earlier post by our educated amateur astrophysicist above [YSM], of her idea, biblically supported of course, that the sun is NOT a fusion reactor, but rather is simply a set of crystals hung on... on... [on what, again, YSM?] in the heavens by God's obedient angels. It collects light, and obviously, massive heat, from... from.... from..... oh heck, I'd rather let her tell you. I don't want to make any more errors....
Anyhow, that I'll save for my next Educational Thread-Post, always fighting the forces of DARKNESS*
*Deviously Altered Realities Krafted by Nonsensically Errant & Sanctimonious Spinmeisters
(Hey; these Acronyms aren't easy, yah know!)
I WILL, however, leave you with this photo of the sun, just coolly refractin' away.
(This was prob'ly PhotoShopped a bit, those massive measured flares and all...must be the crystals buring up, eh?
And we'll have to ignore those spectro-heliographs anyhow, even though they work for all the other heavenly bodies.
Oh, the next Big Question must then be:
Are ALL the other suns we see ALSO just done with smoke and mirrors; ooops; crystals?
Phaskinatin', huh? I can hardly wait for that explanation! )
(BTW, this picture was taken and presented by the Ben Gurion University. Aren't they sorta Judeo-Christian? huh? Dang them anyhow, messing with the truth like this!)
there are still people that believe that the sun revolves around the earth?
Yes, as implausibe as it might appear... I mean, given even the most basic-basic physics/gravitational law observations....
"Tonight, on the Jay Leno Tonight Show, we have a lady from rural Washington who, I'm not making this up, actually believes just exactly that! So, without any further delay...
"Heeeeeeeeeerrrssssssss Yeshuasavedme, with her bible book of handy "proofs by scripture"! Let's give her a big round of applause, shall we?"
(*Let not your stupid scientific and mathematical observations and calculations deceive you from God's Truth!")
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the Truth, like God's holy Light, comes burning through the heavens!
)
Dang them anyhow, messing with the truth like this!)
Maybe some irony in that - No?
"It says so! Right here!"*
