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Old 11-14-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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Perhaps you missed the point?

If someone asks you "Would there likely be a fight between you and them" and your first comment is to say that the other side would start it, then you are actually the one fueling the fire.
just verifying your statement.

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Yeah it'll be those dirty religious people!
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Old 11-14-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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just verifying your statement.
I was exaggerating to try to make the point obvious. May or may not have worked, I suppose.
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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I think the general tendency is that it would be cordial. Most people in real life wisely avoid discussion of religion or politics.

A lot would depend on the diversity of the crowd, particularly in this angst-filled post-election winter of our discontent. If it was just a bunch of white people of similar income bracket, it'd be far less likely to go off the rails than if it were mostly lower income whites with a Muslim-looking person or a flamboyant gay couple or an obvious liberal white elite in the mix.
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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well how many died after Obama was elected ?
and how many are wounded or will die after trump was ?
I thin k that is the answer to who starts the fight .
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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well how many died after Obama was elected ?
and how many are wounded or will die after trump was ?
I thin k that is the answer to who starts the fight .
I'm actually not sure at all how this related to anything. I do know that mensaguy is trying to discourage political talk though.
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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You get a kind of mental image of what people might be like in person after you've exchanged a few posts with them. I really think it would be interesting to actually meet everyone in person for a drink (with alcohol or not depending on your preference) and see if my mental image is correct. Of course this isn't a practical idea because we have people from all over the world but wouldn't it be a kick if it could be done? There's a few people who would be in each other's face in less than ten seconds who shall remain nameless. I could see a fist fight breaking out or at least a shouting match developing very quickly.
There's actually quite a few believers who I think I'd get along with quite well. I expect I'd hit it off with virtually all of my fellow atheists. There are a few people who I don't think would like me though and I expect there's a few I wouldn't care for either although I generally tend to get alone with people very well.
Anyway, I think it would be a riot if it could happen. In fact it could turn into a literal riot involving intervention by the police accompanied by national headlines, arrests, trips to the emergency room, etc. if a few people are as tightly wound as I picture them to be. I think it would be fun though, don't you?
we do, all the time. And when we focus on the things like love, understanding, and acceptance everything else is easy. Of course I am not a person that says anything goes, so that's makes it easier too. I mean, if you have a penis you aint allowed in the girls room. I could riot against people that think thats ok.
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Old 11-14-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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and what better description of

All the people in the World do you have than

Hippies, Fundies, and Atheists? hmm?
Non -Debate Friendship Thread
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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It wouldn't be the atheists that started any bloodshed...
You'd be wrong. 7% (1% just Christian, 4% just Muslim, 2% all others) of all wars are caused by religion. That leaves 93% secular causes.

In fact tghe communist regime, which was atheistic caused a huge number of deaths. Or how about the number of avowed atheists that believe abortion is okay. Or the number of hate crimes that are purely political not religious.

It could be peaceful, but honestly, this is a stereotype, and generally only true in self defense.
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:10 AM
 
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You'd be wrong. 7% (1% just Christian, 4% just Muslim, 2% all others) of all wars are caused by religion. That leaves 93% secular causes.

In fact tghe communist regime, which was atheistic caused a huge number of deaths. Or how about the number of avowed atheists that believe abortion is okay. Or the number of hate crimes that are purely political not religious.

It could be peaceful, but honestly, this is a stereotype, and generally only true in self defense.
How does an atheist leader get an entire Christian nation to kill off another religious group?
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Old 11-15-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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I'm actually not sure at all how this related to anything. I do know that mensaguy is trying to discourage political talk though.
Very old thread!

The dissuation of "political talk" on this board has been very strange in its application.
Nothing would be more "political" than subjects about The Constitution, or legislation by politicians that creates laws/orgulations/ordinances governing the behavior of the people...yet that is a big chunk of this board and obviously fully permitted...it even sees contributions by those that say "no political discussions". MOF...we have a threads right now about Trump and assessment of laws by politicians about if employers can preach to employees...they have been on the board for a while.
While "abortion" (that is hardly political) is not permitted.
So...it seems to depend on the "political" subject.

As far a "bloodshed" if differing groups got together...it depends on the groups. Actually...there is more of a chance of differing "believers" getting into it than anything.
Mostly, it would be greatly influenced by which subjects came up in discussion...and how the tone of the conversation went.
This goes along with what I have been saying for a long time...at some point the Religious Majority would get sick of the courts and legal system being used to force them to accept a culture that goes against their core beliefs...and the levy of civil and criminal sanctions with no allowance for contentious objection. That they would eventually get fed up with what they see as "The Tyranny of the Minority" and that there would be a move to change it. You are seeing that now...and not just in the U.S.
The traditions and culture set by Religions are very powerful...and the adherents are known to be willing to fight to maintain them. That has never varied in all of human history.
Any thought by the NonReligious that they have won "The Culture War" (mainly because of the legal machinations used to allow women to execute their unborn children by the tens of millions, and homosexuals to get married) is very premature...and the Religious are starting to push back.
I believe it will get way worse before it is settled, but since the Religious have a major advantage in numbers (and the conviction) it is pretty obvious how it will shake out in the end.
It will be interesting, to say the least.
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