Direct fossil evidence against evolution (proof, according, attend, secret)

[Boxcar Overkill]

Originally Posted by Calypsis4

The problem is certainly not in a lack of fossils. We have discovered billions of them and there are billions more left to be unearthed.

Could you cite a source for this? How many BILLIONS of fossils do you believe we have discovered? Of those, how many do you think have been carefully examined and collected for comparison?

I know you wouldn't lie, being a Christian and all. If we had really examined BILLIONS of fossils, you wouldn't imply that we had. Surely you have a pretty solid source of evidence for your BILLIONS claim.

You talk directly about the bat. How many bat fossils have been collected and analyzed?

[MontanaGuy]

Calypsis4 wrote:

No, the argument is EXTREMELY persuasive to any who have not already been infected with evolutionary thought and/or those who have faith in nature rather than the intelligent Engineer (Creator) who should get the credit.

Infected? No, I think educated would be a more appropriate word.
Let me attempt to ask another question even though you haven't answered any so far. Are you part of the species known as young earth creationists who believe that the universe is only a few thousand years old or are you aware of the overwhelming evidence that proves the universe is about 14 billion years old and the earth is about four and a half billion years old? I'm wondering because many of the fossil photos you've shown are of specimans that are indicated as being millions of years old and you're comparing them to their descendents that are living today.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by MontanaGuy

It's true that there's a great many organisms to don't appear to change much at all over millions of years. There are many insects that fall into this category. The reason is simple, they've evolved to be able to survive in a wide variety of environments and are often found in every part of the world except for the polar regions. Most plants or animals are not so fortunate. The environment is always changing although it usually happens very slowly. There are huge numbers of species that are only found in one kind of environment and often in only one area in the world such as the Amazon. When their environment is altered due to natural changes or often from human activity they are unable to survive and go extinct.

Yet, don't you find it a bit strange that we have fossils that have existed from the very beginning showing life forms that existed in the past, yet (ONLY) the fossils that would prove the reality of evolution, are missing, and can never be found. Henry Gee of course is telling us, all the fossils that would make those evolutionary connections are lost to deep time. Yet we have fossils of almost everything else, and none of those fossils are lost to deep time. So how is it, only the fossils that would show us obvious evolution appear to be gone? Such a belief, appears to defy our most basic logic.

[MontanaGuy]

Campbell34 wrote:

Yet, don't you find it a bit strange that we have fossils that have existed from the very beginning showing life forms that existed in the past, yet (ONLY) the fossils that would prove the reality of evolution, are missing, and can never be found. Henry Gee of course is telling us, all the fossils that would make those evolutionary connections are lost to deep time. Yet we have fossils of almost everything else, and none of those fossils are lost to deep time. So how is it, only the fossils that would show us obvious evolution appear to be gone? Such a belief, appears to defy our most basic logic.

Well Campbell, now you and Calypsis can have a tag team.
Actually there have been so many examples of what could be called transitional fossils presented to you on other threads that I've lost track of them (actually every organism is a transitional). I know the creationist websites promote the viewpoint that there is no evidence of evolution in the fossil record but we have evidence even of our own lineage.

[jbird82]

Did I miss something? Has the OP shown any evidence for an intelligent designer? Even if every single fossil ever found on earth showed no evolutionary qualities in related species, how would this prove there is an intelligent designer?

[agnostic soldier]

Originally Posted by Calypsis4

Scare me? Are you nuts? I am an ex-evolutionist.

"There are countless fossils that prove the truth of evolution."

Did you even bother to examine the several dozen illustrations of living fossils that I have posted since yesterday?

If not, then I ask you kindly to please do so.

Why don't you bother to site your sources? It's because this is all just creationist propaganda.

[rifleman]

Originally Posted by scgraham

The devil deceived Adam and Eve with lies, and he has not changed strategies all these years later. People are in for a rude wakening.

Let's rephrase with the truth, shall we? Let's see now...

The Church has deceived with lies, and has not changed strategies for millenia. People are in for a rude wakening!

Yeah; that's got it right!

[Calypsis4]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Yet, don't you find it a bit strange that we have fossils that have existed from the very beginning showing life forms that existed in the past, yet (ONLY) the fossils that would prove the reality of evolution, are missing, and can never be found. Henry Gee of course is telling us, all the fossils that would make those evolutionary connections are lost to deep time. Yet we have fossils of almost everything else, and none of those fossils are lost to deep time. So how is it, only the fossils that would show us obvious evolution appear to be gone? Such a belief, appears to defy our most basic logic.

No, they don't find it strange. They prefer to live in denial. They prefer to believe the 'scholars' rather than their own eyes.

[Calypsis4]

Originally Posted by rifleman

Let's rephrase with the truth, shall we? Let's see now...

The Chruch has decieved with lies, and has not changed strategies for millenia. People are in for a rude wakening!

Yeah; that's got it right!

Uh, what does this have to do with living fossils? Are you unable to stay on topic because you can't answer the plethora of evidence?

[Snort]

Wow! Look at how this thread has evolved!