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[justamere10]

What do Latter-day Saints say when someone asks us, “Have you been saved?” part 5


A fourth meaning of being saved is to be saved from the darkness of ignorance of God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, and of the purpose of life, and of the destiny of men and women. The gospel made known to us by the teachings of Jesus Christ has given us this salvation. “I am the light of the world,” Jesus taught; “he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8:12; see also John 12:46).

For Latter-day Saints, being “saved” can also mean being saved or delivered from the second death (meaning the final spiritual death) by assurance of a kingdom of glory in the world to come (see 1 Cor. 15:40–42). Just as the Resurrection is universal, we affirm that every person who ever lived upon the face of the earth—except for a very few—is assured of salvation in this sense. As we read in modern revelation:

“And this is the gospel, the glad tidings … “That he came into the world, even Jesus, to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness;

“That through him all might be saved whom the Father had put into his power and made by him; “Who glorifies the Father, and saves all the works of his hands, except those sons of perdition who deny the Son after the Father has revealed him” (D&C 76:40–43; emphasis added).

The prophet Brigham Young taught that doctrine when he declared that “every person who does not sin away the day of grace, and become an angel to the Devil, will be brought forth to inherit a kingdom of glory” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young [1997], 288). This meaning of saved ennobles the whole human race through the grace of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. In this sense of the word, all should answer: “Yes, I have been saved. Glory to God for the gospel and gift and grace of His Son!”

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[justamere10]

What do Latter-day Saints say when someone asks us, “Have you been saved?” part 6 final


Finally, in another usage familiar and unique to Latter-day Saints, the words saved and salvation are also used to denote exaltation or eternal life (see Abr. 2:11). This is sometimes referred to as the “fulness of salvation” (Bruce R. McConkie, The Mortal Messiah, 4 vols. [1979–81], 1:242).

This salvation requires more than repentance and baptism by appropriate priesthood authority. It alsorequires the making of sacred covenants, including eternal marriage, in the temples of God, and faithfulness to those covenants by enduring to the end.

If we use the word salvation to mean “exaltation,” it is premature for any of us to say that we have been “saved” in mortality. That glorious status can only follow the final judgment of Him who is the Great Judge of the living and the dead.


I have suggested that the short answer to the question of whether a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been saved or born again must be a fervent “yes.” Our covenant relationship with our Savior puts us in that “saved” or “born again” condition meant by those who ask this question. (Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Ensign May 1998)


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[BergenCountyJohnny]

Mormons should say "No." Mormons are not saved as they reject the One True God in favor of multiple gods (they are polytheists). Furthermore, their salvation is based on grace+works, not grace alone.

[justamere10]

Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny

Mormons should say "No." Mormons are not saved as they reject the One True God in favor of multiple gods (they are polytheists). Furthermore, their salvation is based on grace+works, not grace alone.

Thanks for expressing your opinion Johnny. But why not respond to my post 142 so readers can decide if it's likely that you know anything true about LDS beliefs, or if your opinions are just based on ignorance, such as the one you just expressed?

http://www.city-data.com/forum/11102047-post142.html

[justamere10]

Christians are followers of Jesus Christ and Mormons are Christians. Jesus Christ and his teachings are at the center of all of our beliefs and religious practices. The Book of Mormon is Another Testament of Jesus Christ.

But we are not the same as other organized Christian denominations, we are not Protestants, not descended from Catholics.

We testify that God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to young Joseph Smith, their chosen prophet leader of the dispensation of the fulness of times in the early 1800's in America. From there flowed the restoration of the pure doctrines and teachings of the Lord and his apostles in the meridian of time. That restoration included the marvelous appearance of many prophets and leaders of old times, come back as resurrected beings to restore keys and priesthood power, as happens when new dispensations of time are ushered in after periods of apostasy. Those who belive the Bible should not have a problem with the appearance of angels or the resurrected Christ.

In these the fulness of times I testify that the Lord's church has been restored, once again with himself at the head and on a foundation of revelation and living prophets and apostles, as it was anciently.

I invite all to anonymously browse at our official websites to learn what is available today during a time when traditional organized religion and many paid professional pastors and priests are failing sincere followers of Jesus Christ.


Basic Beliefs, Q&A, live chat with a missionary, free Book of Mormon:

http://www.mormon.org


Living Apostles testify of Jesus Christ the Son of God:

http://jesuschrist.lds.org/SonOfGod/eng/

[justamere10]

I continue to be amazed at how some people, instead of telling beautiful things about their own beliefs and the great hope for eternal life that those beliefs have brought to them, try to negate and make evil the beliefs of other followers of Jesus Christ.

It looks like some people are fearful of discussing Mormonism in this thread, possibly because there are real Mormons here willing to reveal the truth about the religious beliefs and practices of Mormons, so they are starting their own separate rant threads and pretending that Mormons believe what they say we believe.

It is my hope that board members will not be deceived about the Mormons by reading only the comments of apostates and enemies of the Latter-day Saints.

I invite board members to come here to question the 'facts' told about us by non-Mormons in other threads rather than have a bunch of confusing threads about Mormons happening at the same time. You'll get an honest answer here...

[justamere10]

You Tube video: An Apostle's Testimony of the Book of Mormon:


YouTube - Joseph Smith & the Book of Mormon - An Apostle's Testimony



"And now, my beloved brethren, and also Jew, and all ye ends of the earth, hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ ye will believe in these words, for they are the words of Christ, and he hath given them unto me; and they teach all men that they should do good.

And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye—for Christ will show unto you, with power and great glory, that they are his words, at the last day; and you and I shall stand face to face before his bar; and ye shall know that I have been commanded of him to write these things, notwithstanding my weakness." 2 Nephi 33: 10-11

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/33/10-11#10




A free copy of The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ is available at:

http://www.mormon.org

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

Well thats the problem isn't it?

I mean, if Christians were to say, "Well Christ wasn't perfect" then that would be the end of their religion.

Mormons believe that their "prophet" Joseph Smith was in touch with God and doing Gods work. Mr. Smith apparently saw it as Gods work to marry as many as 48 wives!!! Having children with most of them at the least.

Jews acknowledge that Moses, Abraham, Joseph, David, Soloman, and many of their other patriarchs were far from perfect. But they don't run away from that, and they don't try and forget about it.

The LDS faith acknowledges that even Prophets aren't perfect. A famous LDS line is "Inspired, not infallible". With that said, it is not believed that Joseph Smith was committing sin by practicing polygamy, much like it's not believed Bible prophets (such as Abraham) were when they did it, by Bible believers.

Regarding your statement about Joseph's supposed children, here's a link to DNA results:

Joseph Smith/Polygamy/Children of polygamous marriages - FAIRMormon

This is a huge criticism I have regarding the anti-mormon community: The valid points get washed away by the obvious exaggerated lies.

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny

Mormons should say "No." Mormons are not saved as they reject the One True God in favor of multiple gods (they are polytheists). Furthermore, their salvation is based on grace+works, not grace alone.

Well, I'm not going to say that. Thanks for the post though.

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by DaniMae1

Sex is such an intimate act that I can't see how people can just causually have a sexual relationship with more than one person.

Well you are at odds with the rest of the world on that one.

The difference being, in regards to LDS polygamy, it was only allowed under an official marriage (and actually eternal for LDS believers). That meant supporting the wives as you would just one wife. Though I understand, based on the world we live in, that it is hard to believe the men did this with a good heart and good intentions. But that is what we believe. Furthermore, the marriages were consensual (after all, this was still America, land of the free).