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Old 10-08-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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ScienceDaily (Jan. 21, 2005) — BLOOMINGTON, Ind.

Scientists from Indiana University Bloomington and seven other institutions have unearthed skeletal fossils of a human ancestor believed to have lived about 4.5 million years ago. The fossils, described in this week's Nature (Jan. 20), will help scientists piece together the mysterious transformation of primitive chimp-like hominids into more human forms.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:07 AM
 
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I think you'll find that as easily refuted as all the previous evidence. It is all supposition, invention, unprovable, no - one has seen a chimp change into a human and all the rest.
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Default Dont'cha just love it?

Perhaps the more convincing accumulation of knowledge is simply that entirely different disciplines that have no anti-Christian agenda are all finding information that dovetails into the findings of other, scientifically unrelated disciplines. Geology vs. biology vs. nuclear physics.

New methods of dating artifacts, for instance, has arisen from the practical application of newly discovered nuc-physics processes, or the means to evaluate ever-more-microscopic and once-elusive items and processes.

Then, some bright open-minded lad or lassie thinks: "Hey! This might be useful in dating a certain type of artifact". He/she tests it against known items, or those dated by other means, and voila! Then, an analysis of the exact technical rationale behind the process indicates why it's so much more accurate, and so on.

The wheel keeps turning. Knowledge advances. The darkness of oblivious blindered dogmo-theism receeds.

And then, with predictable reliability, the always defensive fundies unearth some ancient criticism of the process from 20 - 30 years ago, when it was in it's infancy. And thus, they assert, it's ALL nonsense, even the latest fully cross-supported findings.

Right. As some have said before: "Ignorance is easy; Knowledge Takes Effort".
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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What's interesting is that creationists will use this to try and 'prove' their beliefs.
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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Creationist also seem to have this misguided assumption that evolution has anything to do with whether there is or isn't a god. I really think they're wasting their time here fighting a pointless and unwinnable war.

Even if (calm down, I said "if" ) evolution was proven to be all wrong, it wouldn't make their beliefs automatically correct by default.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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I think you'll find that as easily refuted as all the previous evidence. It is all supposition, invention, unprovable, no - one has seen a chimp change into a human and all the rest.

Don't you guys just love these Creationsists? They use science and technology all day everyday: the wakeup to a digital alarm clock; they microwave their coffee and croissant; they drive to work in an automobile with an internal combustion, fuel-injected engine--and maybe even a GPS system; they make a doctor's appointment for an x-ray on their cell phone.
THEN: they get on their personal computer and post about how the science of carbon-dating and evolution is bogus and groundless.
Peace.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Don't you guys just love these Creationsists? They use science and technology all day everyday: the wakeup to a digital alarm clock; they microwave their coffee and croissant; they drive to work in an automobile with an internal combustion, fuel-injected engine--and maybe even a GPS system; they make a doctor's appointment for an x-ray on their cell phone.
THEN: they get on their personal computer and post about how the science of carbon-dating and evolution is bogus and groundless.
Peace.
Exactly! Flat Earthers and people who believe in the Tooth Fairy shouldn't benefit from the very source they criticize.

Only the Amish walk the talk.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:11 PM
 
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Creationist also seem to have this misguided assumption that evolution has anything to do with whether there is or isn't a god. I really think they're wasting their time here fighting a pointless and unwinnable war.

Even if (calm down, I said "if" ) evolution was proven to be all wrong, it wouldn't make their beliefs automatically correct by default.
Well evolutionists make the same misguided assumption.'God' could have used evolution,plenty of people who believe in some form of god dont dispute evolution.Even if evolution is found to be totally correct,[which I believe it mostly is],that has no relevance to the question of the existence of 'God' except for those totally wedded to the notion that God has to do everything with the wave of his hand or the wiggle of her nose to be legit.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:15 AM
 
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I think you'll find that as easily refuted as all the previous evidence. It is all supposition, invention, unprovable, no - one has seen a chimp change into a human and all the rest.
Of course not seeing as we don't descend from chimps, but both chimps and man descend from an earlier primate/ape. At least that's what I recall.

Still there are creationistish theories I've heard that would be unaffected by any discovery. One I remember best being that all these hominids existed, were even created by a divinely directed form of evolution, but that Humans were created 6,000 years ago in Iraq. God created humans to be able to reproduce with these hominids so Seth, Adam's third son, could have some women to reproduce with later. As the "soul" is, after a fashion, a "dominant trait" all the kids he had with these hominids were Humans with souls. This was by an Orthodox Jewish man. I remember being surprised by this and some Evangelicals I think had mixed feelings as it essentially assigned all of humanity to be a product of bestiality.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:44 AM
 
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Don't you guys just love these Creationsists? They use science and technology all day everyday: the wakeup to a digital alarm clock; they microwave their coffee and croissant; they drive to work in an automobile with an internal combustion, fuel-injected engine--and maybe even a GPS system; they make a doctor's appointment for an x-ray on their cell phone.
THEN: they get on their personal computer and post about how the science of carbon-dating and evolution is bogus and groundless.
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It's the same crowd who quote a couple of verses from the OT telling them to use the earth and all it's resources for their need and pleasure and not to worry because god has given them domain over everything:

Genesis 1:26 mankind was given “dominion” over “fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over everything that creeps on the earth“.
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