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Old 10-23-2009, 07:56 AM
 
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Interesting....most of the atheists I know personally do not fit into your scheme of narrow-mindedness. They, as have I, explored several realms and have made my study of religion with an open mind. After much study and quite a bit of thought, I believe theism has no logical basis, it is another form of mythology, as much as that writ about by Edith Hamilton or Bullfinch, the similarities became too glaring to overlook. The christer bible, (buy bull) has nothing new to add to the mythological record.
With all this open minded effort on your part, it is unfortunate that you learned nothing and nothing was revealed to you. Apparently the couple of billion people of faith throughout human history were wrong and you are right. Go figure.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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With all this open minded effort on your part, it is unfortunate that you learned nothing and nothing was revealed to you. Apparently the couple of billion people of faith throughout human history were wrong and you are right. Go figure.
Exactly. A couple of billion unthinking or narrow minded people proves nothing. 2/3rds of the world believe differently than you. Does that make them right?
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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Exactly. A couple of billion unthinking or narrow minded people proves nothing. 2/3rds of the world believe differently than you. Does that make them right?
If numbers = Right, then who does that put in the driver's seat? The Hindus? I'm sure someone will say it's the Christians, but I think those numbers are including Catholics and Mormons as well...whom I hear a lot of Protestants don't call Christians...

Hmmm...could be Islam too, I suppose. Though if it IS Christianity, we'd have to look at all the different flavors of it, see who has the most numbers, and call that one the "right" one?
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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Exactly. A couple of billion unthinking or narrow minded people proves nothing. 2/3rds of the world believe differently than you. Does that make them right?
Yes, I think they are right in their own way. I sometimes think God has spoken differently to different races and cultures.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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It is impossible to prove there is not a God to theists. As for atheists, few are willing to put in the 20 hours or so it would take to investigate whether there is a God. So each will continue along the path they are on.
20 hours, try 5-6 years in my case. After 5-6 years of searching I gave up. Could not find any evidence to support a god.

Exactly my point. Nothing will disprove the dogmatic belief that the christian god is real to someone with blind faith.

To answer the opening post. Those who believe in a dogmatic doctrine are closed minded.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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20 hours, try 5-6 years in my case. After 5-6 years of searching I gave up. Could not find any evidence to support a god.
I find this truly sad. I wonder why God reveals Himself to some but not to others?

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Exactly my point. Nothing will disprove the dogmatic belief that the christian god is real to someone with blind faith.

To answer the opening post. Those who believe in a dogmatic doctrine are closed minded.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think those who have great faith are narrow minded. Only those who refute great bodies of evidence--you know, the flat earth types who cling to beliefs such as creation occuring 6,000 years ago. /jmho
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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I find this truly sad. I wonder why God reveals Himself to some but not to others?

Don't get me wrong. I don't think those who have great faith are narrow minded. Only those who refute great bodies of evidence--you know, the flat earth types who cling to beliefs such as creation occuring 6,000 years ago. /jmho
Truly sad that there is no evidence of a god... that's weird.

Refute? You mean deny. Why would you use that word?
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:19 PM
 
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Refute? You mean deny. Why would you use that word?
Yeah, "deny" might be more appropriate. But refute works too. Or at least some definitions do.

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re·fute (r-fyt) tr.v. re·fut·ed, re·fut·ing, re·futes
2. To deny the accuracy or truth of: refuted the results of the poll.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:21 PM
 
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Yeah, "deny" might be more appropriate. But refute works too. Or at least some definitions do.
The more accurate word would be deny.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Such a view can only be retained through a willful and deliberate ignorance of all the knowledge humankind has accumulated. As it turns out . . . the bible CONTAINS truth . . . but not the way you read and interpret it.





lololololol but of course!! Very willful and deliberate ignorance of all the knowledge humankind has accumulated!! Because to say otherwise Nikki would probably have to really look at what she is saying.........
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