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Old 10-24-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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Fine, but don't try to tell people what to think.

Especially since what you just stated is essentially hedging your bet.

I have heard this argument before and find it laughable.
Hell is no laughing matter I pray you will rethink the risk you are taking not knowing to a T that you could be right or you could be wrong. Too much at stake to think God is some fairy tale.
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Hell is no laughing matter I pray you will rethink the risk you are taking not knowing to a T that you could be right or you could be wrong. Too much at stake to think God is some fairy tale.
Like I said, you can believe what you want, fairy tales and all.

I will believe what I want.

Now, you ignored the more pertinent point about you hedging your bet. To me that shows that whatever you say here is, at the very least, suspect.
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:57 PM
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Location: Sonoma County, CA
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When I die one day if what you say is true than I've lost nor gained anything but if I'm right and you're wrong I've gained eternal life with God and for you eternal separation from God. I'll take my chances by faith that Jesus was telling the truth since the stakes are high for hellfire.
So people should live their entire lives living in total fear so that they hedge against a single, possible, low percentage outcome after they die?

I say again....wow.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:01 PM
zdg
 
Location: Sonoma County, CA
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Hell is no laughing matter I pray you will rethink the risk you are taking not knowing to a T that you could be right or you could be wrong. Too much at stake to think God is some fairy tale.
Have you seen Hell? Do you know a single person who has? Do you know it's no laughing matter? How would you know that? What if it does, in fact, exist and it turns out Hell is a place where the weather is always perfect and my favorite sports team wins the Intergalactic Championship every year while I we sip Spanish wine and eat French food? Why is the mere belief in Your Phantom the only way to keep from going there? Why would I care enough to spend my entire absolutely-guaranteed-existence (the one we're living right now, see) worrying about a possible-but-not-proven-on-any-level existence after this one? Why am I asking rhetorical questions to fundies on an anonymous website instead of watching college football?
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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So people should live their entire lives living in total fear so that they hedge against a single, possible, low percentage outcome after they die?

I say again....wow.
You want to risk going to hell well good for you I don't want to risk it so by faith I am betting God is right and atheists are fools and dead wrong, that's interested cause one day they will die and be wrong perfect harmony
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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Have you seen Hell? Do you know a single person who has? Do you know it's no laughing matter? How would you know that? What if it does, in fact, exist and it turns out Hell is a place where the weather is always perfect and my favorite sports team wins the Intergalactic Championship every year while I we sip Spanish wine and eat French food? Why is the mere belief in Your Phantom the only way to keep from going there? Why would I care enough to spend my entire absolutely-guaranteed-existence (the one we're living right now, see) worrying about a possible-but-not-proven-on-any-level existence after this one? Why am I asking rhetorical questions to fundies on an anonymous website instead of watching college football?
It's all a joke to you guys but one day when you are old and gray hopefully and on your death bed somewhere you will remember me that old fool who believed science was lying to mankind about God not existing and how Christ Jesus was telling the truth.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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Have you seen Hell? Do you know a single person who has? Do you know it's no laughing matter? How would you know that? What if it does, in fact, exist and it turns out Hell is a place where the weather is always perfect and my favorite sports team wins the Intergalactic Championship every year while I we sip Spanish wine and eat French food? Why is the mere belief in Your Phantom the only way to keep from going there? Why would I care enough to spend my entire absolutely-guaranteed-existence (the one we're living right now, see) worrying about a possible-but-not-proven-on-any-level existence after this one? Why am I asking rhetorical questions to fundies on an anonymous website instead of watching college football?
I personally do not know anyone who has seen hell but countless claims from people are posted on youtube and other sources. Oh I know they are all either crazy or just making up stuff to promote themselves for money.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You want to risk going to hell well good for you I don't want to risk it so by faith I am betting God is right and atheists are fools and dead wrong, that's interested cause one day they will die and be wrong perfect harmony
Sorry buddy, but I think you are a fool for wasting your time worrying about something that doesn't exist...You may as well worry that the boogey man is gonna getcha.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:08 PM
 
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Still avoiding the 'hedging your bet' idea, I see.

Let's see, I should believe in Islam, Buddism, Christianity, and a host of others...

just in case.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:10 PM
zdg
 
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You want to risk going to hell well good for you I don't want to risk it so by faith I am betting God is right and atheists are fools and dead wrong, that's interested cause one day they will die and be wrong perfect harmony
You want to risk living a boring, intolerant existence in total fear while denying the beauty that is observing testable data to create a belief system that has predictable, provable outcomes well good for you and I don't want to risk it so by the scientific method I am betting God was made up by poorly educated, highly fearful, badly under duress human beings who needed to believe that someone, somewhere cares deeply about them and has a plan for them beyond being cogs in a system that chews them up and spits them out and that fundies are dead wrong, that's interested (can I just [sic] the whole post?) cause one day they will die and be in a box in the ground just like me in perfect harmony, helping to properly fertilize the Earth for the next generation.

Seriously, you're content taking the easy way out on the whole "thinking" thing? You're that terrified of a second opinion?
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