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Old 10-23-2009, 03:47 PM
 
Location: pine tree monotony
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I know people in my own church who act like they are the only authority on everything; are rude to others, gruff, etc. Whether or not everyone is in the same social circle is immaterial. When you go to God's house you should treat everyone well (remmeber the golden rule,lol) and not be a ******(you choose your favorite expletive).

Going to church for these people who I've known for years and years just seems like a waste of time. Why bother? Is it me being judgemental of them? I just think that some fellow members need to put their best foot forward in God's house (try to do so outside of God's house). But really to be so ugly to people in church is beyond unthinkable.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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Odd that the scrips state that he does not dwell in a temple made of hands yet temples is all we seem to have for the evidence of gawd plus the stand-up comedians that run these temples.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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Odd that the scrips state that he does not dwell in a temple made of hands yet temples is all we seem to have for the evidence of gawd plus the stand-up comedians that run these temples.
And LAVISH ones at that!
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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I know people in my own church who act like they are the only authority on everything; are rude to others, gruff, etc. Whether or not everyone is in the same social circle is immaterial. When you go to God's house you should treat everyone well (remmeber the golden rule,lol) and not be a ******(you choose your favorite expletive).

Going to church for these people who I've known for years and years just seems like a waste of time. Why bother? Is it me being judgemental of them? I just think that some fellow members need to put their best foot forward in God's house (try to do so outside of God's house). But really to be so ugly to people in church is beyond unthinkable.
How else do you expect a person to act when they think they have absolute knowledge?

"It is said that science will dehumanize people and turn them into numbers. That is false, tragically false. Look for yourself. This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz. This is where people were turned into numbers. Into this pond were flushed the ashes of some four million people. And that was not done by gas. It was done by arrogance. It was done by dogma. It was done by ignorance. When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave. This is what men do when they aspire to the knowledge of gods." - Jacob Bronowski as he stood in the the ashes of Auschwitz.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:14 PM
 
Location: pine tree monotony
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How else do you expect a person to act when they think they have absolute knowledge?

"It is said that science will dehumanize people and turn them into numbers. That is false, tragically false. Look for yourself. This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz. This is where people were turned into numbers. Into this pond were flushed the ashes of some four million people. And that was not done by gas. It was done by arrogance. It was done by dogma. It was done by ignorance. When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave. This is what men do when they aspire to the knowledge of gods." - Jacob Bronowski as he stood in the the ashes of Auschwitz.
But it is not God's way to act arrogant toward others. Unfortunately I have heard pastors do the same and to me that is a real stretch for them to feel they are God's called.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:17 PM
 
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I know people in my own church who act like they are the only authority on everything; are rude to others, gruff, etc. Whether or not everyone is in the same social circle is immaterial. When you go to God's house you should treat everyone well (remmeber the golden rule,lol) and not be a ******(you choose your favorite expletive).

Going to church for these people who I've known for years and years just seems like a waste of time. Why bother? Is it me being judgemental of them? I just think that some fellow members need to put their best foot forward in God's house (try to do so outside of God's house). But really to be so ugly to people in church is beyond unthinkable.
I agree........
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: kind of North of the middle of nowhere, FL
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Religion is about Power and (in America at least ) Money
Odd, because most businesses and merchants, for example, would want your business and money so they would be more apt to treat you well so you WOULD Come back. So the idea goes, Right?

Well, Wrong. Look at Walmart, powerful and large and totally uncaring about you or your business. They assume that sooner or later they will get your money just as a church assumes that sooner or later you will come crawling back on your hands and kneees begging for more abuse.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:12 AM
 
Location: pine tree monotony
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To clarify, I am not necessarily admonishing people in the church who display this behavior. I am curious as to why they choose to be unloving toward their fellow members? Human imperfection? Maybe. Seeking a change for the better? Possibly. Just don't care? Unfortunately too many. I don't know but personally I feel that it is the worst thing about church. Why churches run off so many and wind up dying. The ice castle syndrome.

Yes, churches like businesses represent money and power. One fellow has told me that indeed they are a business and that the non-profit non tax should be revoked. I'm not for that, however, I could see how some people arrive at that conclusion.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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I read another thread on here with interest about Calvinism and it gives me some insight as to the question I asked. I am not familiar with Calvinism as I am Methodist but I did know a little about it since my wife and her sister were raised Presbyterian. Her sister still is one.

The church she goes to in Texas we attend when we visit. Full of lovely people, no old grouches or meanies. Maybe they have a better sense of WHO THEY ARE than do Methodists at my home church.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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If your purpose in going to church is for social reasons and you aren't finding your social needs to be met there, there probably really isn't a good reason for you to continue going.
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