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Old 01-19-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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I just found another reason to avoid Trinity Interdenomational -- they're selling books by Mike Bickle, founder and director of IHOP (International House of Prayer) in Kansas City. Bickle is a false prophet, someone who is talking about things like a "bridal paradigm", rebuilding the "spiritual Tabernacle of David" (a phrase that has its origins in the Latter Rain movement of the 1950s), and other New Age-ish sounding terminology that has no basis in scripture. Bickle is in the same crowd as Paul Cain, Bob Jones, and Rick Joyner, charismatic "prophets" (I use that term loosely in describing them) who have mixed a lot of mysticism in with Bible teaching and are feeding it to a lot of the unsuspecting masses in and around Kansas City, especially the young adults who flock to IHOP's 24-hour prayer center in droves. Bickle and his gang should be avoided like the plauge, and so should any church in Omaha that wants to endorse him. I have to be honest in saying that, right now, I don't have a very high opinion of the whole charismatic movement because of these men. Maybe there are some charismatic churches out there that have their heads screwed on straight, but I haven't seen any here yet.

 
Old 01-20-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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I just found another reason to avoid Trinity Interdenomational -- they're selling books by Mike Bickle, founder and director of IHOP (International House of Prayer) in Kansas City.


Bickle is a false prophet, someone who is talking about things like a "bridal paradigm", rebuilding the "spiritual Tabernacle of David" (a phrase that has its origins in the Latter Rain movement of the 1950s), and other New Age-ish sounding terminology that has no basis in scripture.


Bickle is in the same crowd as Paul Cain, Bob Jones, and Rick Joyner, charismatic "prophets" (I use that term loosely in describing them) who have mixed a lot of mysticism in with Bible teaching and are feeding it to a lot of the unsuspecting masses in and around Kansas City, especially the young adults who flock to IHOP's 24-hour prayer center in droves.

Bickle and his gang should be avoided like the plauge, and so should any church in Omaha that wants to endorse him. I have to be honest in saying that, right now, I don't have a very high opinion of the whole charismatic movement because of these men. Maybe there are some charismatic churches out there that have their heads screwed on straight, but I haven't seen any here yet.



King of Kings Lutheran Church of Omaha Nebraska

also has sold books by Mike Bickle, founder and director of IHOP (International House of Prayer)



Trinity Church of Omaha Nebraska has always been a supporter of Bickle's.


as has King of Kings Lutheran Church of Omaha Nebraska and its pastor Mark Zehnder



it is sad the members of those 2 churches and the others in the Omaha who support IHOP aka (International House of Prayer)

have no discernment skills

cause any church or ministry involved with Mike Bickle should raise a red flag




considering Mike Bickle's false teachings and his group's false predictions.


a magic 8-ball toy can tell the future more accurately than the clowns in Bickle's group.




BTW:


the Heartland Gatekeeper should distance itself from Bickle's group

but than again the people who write that monthly Omaha newspaper

could care less about sound doctrine and DISCERNMENT

I only say that cause they heavily promote false teachers and IHOP aka the International House of Prayer
 
Old 01-28-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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2 more churches I would recomend avoiding


Covenant Family Church of Omaha Nebraska

and Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraska



both support the false teachings of Jay West (who is a Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn water-carrier If you know what I mean




say, I heard that Shadow Lake church down in Papillion had a campus in the Millard area

is that true?
 
Old 01-28-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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say, I heard that Shadow Lake church down in Papillion had a campus in the Millard area

is that true?
Yes... took over the old Millard Bible Church building...
 
Old 01-29-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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Yes... took over the old Millard Bible Church building...
I know where that is.


it is near Super Saver and K-Mart at 144th street
 
Old 01-29-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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NO, I don't know what you mean. Would you please elaborate?

Last edited by MsBea_1; 01-29-2009 at 01:02 PM.. Reason: correction
 
Old 01-29-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Papillion
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NO, I don't know what you mean. Would you please elaborate?

Curious... which part of the discussion thread were you asking for elaboration on?
 
Old 01-30-2009, 09:39 AM
 
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the post from Billiefan that states.........2 more churches I would recomend avoidingCovenant Family Church of Omaha Nebraskaand Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraskaboth support the false teachings of Jay West (who is a Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn water-carrier If you know what I mean
 
Old 01-30-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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the post from Billiefan that states.........2 more churches I would recomend avoidingCovenant Family Church of Omaha Nebraskaand Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraskaboth support the false teachings of Jay West (who is a Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn water-carrier If you know what I mean

because Jay West pushes the false teachings of Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn and others like those two I mentioned

I would recomend folks avoiding those 2 churches

since their churches seem to be lacking discernment


no church in omaha can possibly have Jay West speak at their church or support West

unless they are also supportive of the false teachers he promotes.



BTW, many of the people that Jay West have promoted or supported

have made false predictions
(and therefore are false prophets

(see Matthew 24:24


West have never apologized or admitted any of the people he has promoted and supported were wrong


nor has any church in Omaha that JAY WEST frequently speaks at has

either repented for leading people astray with the false teachings of West and West's friends like Patricia King and Todd Bentley




I am saying since


Covenant Family Church of Omaha Nebraska

and Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraska



both support Jay West's ministry and has never rebuked him for pushing false teachers



both those churches are complict in promoting false teachings

since they dont seem to care if Jay West is leading people astray by supporting Todd Bentley



BTW, TO THOSE who dont know who Todd Bentley is




YouTube - TODD BENTLEY RAGING REVIVAL



YouTube - Todd Bentley's Violent "Ministry" [Full Version] (WOTMR)

maybe of help



and that is what Jay West is promoting

and this is what the members and leaders of


Covenant Family Church of Omaha Nebraska

and Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraska



and other Omaha area churches and omaha area ministries that support Todd bentley and Benny Hinn and others like those two

have refused to rebuke JAY WEST for promoting false teacher and false prophers


since they refuse to rebuke West or distance themselves from West's false teachings,

they are saying by not standing up for TRUTH, they are saying they support what Jay West is peddling



===========================================

Matthew 24:24

For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.




What prophecy is currently being fulfilled? (for sure, Apostasy




YouTube - What prophecy is currently being fulfilled?

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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Todd Bentley strikes me as basically being a complete fraud.
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