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Old 09-06-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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Walter isn't Judaism through the mother? A matrilineal inheritance?
My asumption, which may have been incorrect, was that the gggrandfather was married to a Jewish woman; if not, than Richard1965 is not Jewish.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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well, we know he could read, its in the NT. but they memorized text alot too. so how well he could read and write i dont know. he was not a scribe. like today in egypt --most are illiterate or read and write very poorly. but did he write anything ??? the chances that the vatican has done some editing over 2000 years are excellent.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:26 AM
 
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My asumption, which may have been incorrect, was that the gggrandfather was married to a Jewish woman; if not, than Richard1965 is not Jewish.

If his mother was Jewish he is Jewish. If his mother was not but his father was he is not Jewish. Correct?
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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we know he could read, its in the NT.
the chances that the vatican has done some editing over 2000 years are excellent.

He could read, he was a Jew and he grew up learning Torah. He grew up understanding what it meant to be a Jew and to live as a Jew and to practice as a Jew.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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If his mother was Jewish he is Jewish. If his mother was not but his father was he is not Jewish. Correct?
Yes.

But, some Reform congregations accept someone born of a Jewish father, but not of a Jewish mother, as Jewish.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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Yes.

But, some Reform congregations accept someone born of a Jewish father, but not of a Jewish mother, as Jewish.
I know.
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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It says in the scriptures that since they did not want to acknowledge the Truth, God handed them over to a delusion so that they would believe a lie...
If you will open your scriptures and read what Luke wrote:

Luke 24:32 says, “They asked each other, ‘were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?’â€

What does he say here? "Were not our hearts burning within us..."

This burning within us is the very essence of God... His Divine Love and it is what all the disciples received at Pentecost and it came as if a mighty wind... and it's what Jesus received all of his life and when his soul was completely filled, he became the Christ, the divine man.

Why is this truth left out of the bible? Because later writers and rewriters didn't have a clue about it.

But there is no excuse for any of us now, because Jesus' teachings have been in print for 70 years and they're available online.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:25 AM
 
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To escape anti-semitism maybe? Many Jews after WW2 turned their backs on being Jewish.

When did they come to this country?

Many Jews in history turned their backs on being Jewish or converted to be safe.
Well, my grandmother has the original discharge papers on him from the civil war, he was discharged in Richmond, VA and it is signed by A. Stratton and details his name and place of birth as Francis Joseph Myers born in 1842 in Pest, Hungary and i believe she still has the marriage cert of his wife Catherine and him, i think it has something do do with a synygogue, i can't remember, i saw it when i was a small child then grandma put them back into the safe deposit box in the bank and that is the last time i saw it...I am also told and did research on it, that Myers or Meyers is a Jewish spelling of Maiers or Meiers...And if one looks at the photos of grandma and her mother everyone says that they look Jewish...I think he mother knew, because grandma says she was kinda cagey about where they came from saying things like 'as far as i know we have been here for ever' or 'we've always been Methodists' or something to that effect...And when i was in school many of my school mates thought i was Jewish for some reason, this was way before i started actually paying attention to my heritage...
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:50 AM
 
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Well, my grandmother has the original discharge papers on him from the civil war, he was discharged in Richmond, VA and it is signed by A. Stratton and details his name and place of birth as Francis Joseph Myers born in 1842 in Pest, Hungary and i believe she still has the marriage cert of his wife Catherine and him, i think it has something do do with a synygogue, i can't remember, i saw it when i was a small child then grandma put them back into the safe deposit box in the bank and that is the last time i saw it...I am also told and did research on it, that Myers or Meyers is a Jewish spelling of Maiers or Meiers...And if one looks at the photos of grandma and her mother everyone says that they look Jewish...I think he mother knew, because grandma says she was kinda cagey about where they came from saying things like 'as far as i know we have been here for ever' or 'we've always been Methodists' or something to that effect...And when i was in school many of my school mates thought i was Jewish for some reason, this was way before i started actually paying attention to my heritage...
Thats really interesting. I have been working on geneology for quite awhile and my family is Dutch and German. If there is Jewish in my ancestry I have not found it. I have considered having a dna test done to see if there are azhkanzi markers which would tell me if I have Jewish ancestry although that would not make me a Jew. I have been drawn to Judaism as far back as I can remember I finally converted to Judaism.

You might enjoy digging in to that part of your family and connecting to your heritage.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:19 AM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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Thats really interesting. I have been working on geneology for quite awhile and my family is Dutch and German. If there is Jewish in my ancestry I have not found it. I have considered having a dna test done to see if there are azhkanzi markers which would tell me if I have Jewish ancestry although that would not make me a Jew. I have been drawn to Judaism as far back as I can remember I finally converted to Judaism.

You might enjoy digging in to that part of your family and connecting to your heritage.

Me, too. As far back as I could reason. I'm afraid that if I went to the synagogue they would laugh at me. I once read that they can do a DNA check now for you. I have family from Prussia. You never know. I look Jewish.
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