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Old 05-15-2007, 05:55 PM
 
Location: imprisoned in chicago
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...this earth would probably be permanent. it would likely be a much better place, everyone would likely be nice to each other, and more than likely, there would be no tears, no death, no violence, no threat of being thrown into the fire, no pain, very little work, no bugs that feed on blood, and my psychic beliefs tell me that the flesh would be forever. anyone else have any comments on what they think the world would be like today if adam and eve had never eaten the forbidden fruit in the garden of eden?
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Between Here and There
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There would be no menstrual cramping...which would have made my world happier...LOL
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:02 PM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
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There would be no menstrual cramping...which would have made my world happier...LOL
Yeah, but it would be a woman alone having to deal with two males. Holy hannah, who needs that??? (ETA...the idea being, I don't think Adam and Eve would have had any children if not for Original Sin, since God "condemned" Eve to childbirth as part of her punishment. So...you know. It would have just been Eve and Adam and God...um......okay, now that I've killed the joke entirely by explaining.......)
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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It would be like what we're waiting for after our life is over here. It'll be great.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Yeah, but it would be a woman alone having to deal with two males. Holy hannah, who needs that??? (ETA...the idea being, I don't think Adam and Eve would have had any children if not for Original Sin, since God "condemned" Eve to childbirth as part of her punishment. So...you know. It would have just been Eve and Adam and God...um......okay, now that I've killed the joke entirely by explaining.......)
Actually God gave her pain in childbirth as punishment, not child birth itself.
Genesis 3:
16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

MBG
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Somewhere East of Laramie
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I propose founding a new religion in which all of humanity directs their prejudice and hatred at Adam & Eve and gets along with everyone else
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Burdell, we are no greater, sin would have eventually entered the World through some one, because we all fall short.
MBG
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:02 PM
 
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Actually God gave her pain in childbirth as punishment, not child birth itself.
Genesis 3:
16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

MBG
That's a good point. I was looking at the first three chapters of Genesis just the other night and I'm not so sure Cain and Abel weren't born before the fall.

Excellent point there, mbg. Sharp as a tack, you are!

EDIT: Let me put it this way, there's an argument for before and after. Maybe that's the best way to say it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:09 PM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
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Burdell, we are no greater, sin would have eventually entered the World through some one, because we all fall short.
MBG
This is such a sad sentiment. If I had created something that was absolutely, positively bound to misfire and be faulty eventually, I'd be embarrassed. I certainly wouldn't punish what I'd created for being faulty, when I was the creator. Do you truly believe we were bound to eventually be sinful...no matter what? Is this a commonly held belief? I hadn't heard this one before. But hearing it now makes me sad.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Kenai Peninsula, AK
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This is such a sad sentiment. If I had created something that was absolutely, positively bound to misfire and be faulty eventually, I'd be embarrassed. I certainly wouldn't punish what I'd created for being faulty, when I was the creator. Do you truly believe we were bound to eventually be sinful...no matter what? Is this a commonly held belief? I hadn't heard this one before. But hearing it now makes me sad.
That's one of the things that ultimately drove me from religion. I mean, (supposedly) God is GOD. All knowing. Why didn't he just wipe the slate clean and start over? Or just NOT PUT THE TREE THERE??? Why go through eons of sorrow and the death of his son?

It just doesn't make sense, no matter how you spin it.
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