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Old 11-24-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-213.323.310.818/San Diego-619.858.760
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For those who believe that God is love and he has a plan for us, please watch this video and tell me your opinion. For the first 21 years of my life, I also believed in god but I have come to realize that everything I was once told is a lie.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Well, there's nothing like YouTube to "prove" a point.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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For those who believe that God is love and he has a plan for us, please watch this video and tell me your opinion. For the first 21 years of my life, I also believed in god but I have come to realize that everything I was once told is a lie.
Welcome to the world of rational thought!!! It can be a bit overwhelming at first, all of the myths falling by the wayside....it is not as confusing as it may seem. Without the blinders of religion.....a new line of reasoning can be an adventure in free thought. Enjoy your journey!
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:33 PM
 
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Well, there's nothing like YouTube to "prove" a point.

A well though out video is much better than an old book written by women hating men who claim to be 'inspired' by a loving wonderful murderous being.....
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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One part that bothers me is the balancing act by Theism which he seems to distrust in the terms of moral factors. But could he refute the balancing of a human's (or any living being's) aging with the capability of pro-creation? It also fails for all kinds of temporal reasons to reasoning. But God is ageless and Free to overcome the Passing of Time; therefore the Lack of Him could only realize the world denied to solipsism for the unrealized lives people have in moral responsibility.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Well, there's nothing like YouTube to "prove" a point.
Tell me Fred, what are your objections to the comments made in that video?
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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I think the problem with the OP is that it applies logic to faith in order to prove a point. How is this different from people of faith using theological arguments to discredit scientific arguments? Both of these approaches don't change minds, they just preach to the choir.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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I think the problem with the OP is that it applies logic to faith in order to prove a point. How is this different from people of faith using theological arguments to discredit scientific arguments? Both of these approaches don't change minds, they just preach to the choir.
Yeah, I forgot that the religious consider logic, knowledge and reason the tools of satan.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:24 PM
 
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Yeah, I forgot that the religious consider logic, knowledge and reason the tools of satan.
No we don't. We reach different conclusions from them than you and you proceed to decide this means we're tools of totalitarianism or some other bad you.

I tried to watch a bit of that video, but it seems just like another "I'm a snide jerk, but I have classy music as a backdrop and therefore I'm brilliant!"
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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No we don't. We reach different conclusions from them than you and you proceed to decide this means we're tools of totalitarianism or some other bad you.

I tried to watch a bit of that video, but it seems just like another "I'm a snide jerk, but I have classy music as a backdrop and therefore I'm brilliant!"
There was nothing snide about it...The man simply used logic and reason....Sorry you find that such a turn off.
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