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Old 12-04-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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I don't believe such things exist -- "atheist's moral values and worldview".
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Nowhere'sville
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Believe what you want Bud. It's your loss. And there you go...we are all being name called by Bud.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I don't believe such things exist -- "atheist's moral values and worldview".
I believe an atheists morals are as good or better as anyone else's. We generally do the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do, not because of any future punishment or reward.

Not sure what you mean by worldview, but mine is certainly different than, say the fundamentalist Muslim or Christian.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:29 PM
 
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Just curious how one can have "moral value" when there's no standard of measure? Help me out on that, because if each man does what is right in his own eyes, would you and I necessarily come to the same "moral" conclusions. Even the whole idea of morality, how or who determines what is moral and what isn't?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If you believe that God solely dictates what is good and are good because God commands you to be, you don't have morals, you have obedience to authority.

If you believed God told you to kill someone you love, would you?

If not, you know that you don't need God to be moral. If so, you're a potential immoral menace.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Just curious how one can have "moral value" when there's no standard of measure? Help me out on that, because if each man does what is right in his own eyes, would you and I necessarily come to the same "moral" conclusions. Even the whole idea of morality, how or who determines what is moral and what isn't?
I think each individual determines it for himself...We make a choice based on our empathy, conscience and experience.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Rivendell
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I don't believe such things exist -- "atheist's moral values and worldview".
You are right, Bud. There is no such thing as a world view or moral values that are shared by all atheists. We are individuals, with the one thing being in common that we don't believe in god/gods.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Moral Values? Yes
Worldview? That sounds like a belief system, which might be interpretted as a 'religion', so I vote "no" on that one.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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Theists claim they have their "moral values and worldview" derived from their religion -- that's why they always want to ask similar questions when confronting with atheists.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Just curious how one can have "moral value" when there's no standard of measure? Help me out on that, because if each man does what is right in his own eyes, would you and I necessarily come to the same "moral" conclusions. Even the whole idea of morality, how or who determines what is moral and what isn't?
What standard of measure do non atheists have? Their holy books? I don't know many Christians who can agree on what is right and wrong beyond what the bible tells you, and even then they will often disagree.


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