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Old 04-13-2010, 11:29 PM
 
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That's not saying much. I guess I should get out there and do some random loving of my own, huh?
That would be the agape kind, sanspeur . . . not the lustful kind.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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So you are one of those moral relativist I keep reading about. You accept the Bible except for the parts you don't like. Cool, I just reject the whole thing, it is far more efficient and far less hypocritical.


You should educate yourself on Christianity before arguing it's fundamentals.

Do you know any Christian denomination that follows the OT Jewish laws? There's a scriptural reason behind that.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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What's interesting is that people like jimmiej or chrisishere will claim that you need a belief in god to have an objective standard of right and wrong, yet they ignore the multitude of other god belief based ideologies. Case in point, islamic fundamentalism. It's rather hypocrital for them to say things like suicide bombers and jihad are wrong, when in fact they are based on god based ideologies.
I never said that! Stop putting words in my mouth!!!

I said just the opposite! A basic understanding of good/evil was programmed into us by our Creator.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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That's it? As long as you do those two things you can do anything you want?
If you love God & love others, why would you want to do anything displeasing to God? Here's an example. My wife & I set aside one day a week for worship & rest. No work, no shopping, etc. We do it not because we're required to, but because we love & serve God.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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Correctly understood and implemented they cover quite a bit more ground than the famous Ten.
Mystic, I'd like to rep you, but it won't allow me. Well said!
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I never said that! Stop putting words in my mouth!!!

I said just the opposite! A basic understanding of good/evil was programmed into us by our Creator.
Balderdash! If that was so the prisons wouldn't be chock full of believers, and Christians wouldn't be more violent than non believers. I'm afraid your "creator" let you all down.

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion.
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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You should educate yourself on Christianity before arguing it's fundamentals.
Yes, Christian get out of an argument #3 You Should Educate Yourself on Bible/Christianity etc...

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Do you know any Christian denomination that follows the OT Jewish laws?
That my friend is precisely my point.

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There's a scriptural reason behind that.
Please feel free to illuminate me.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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Yes, Christian get out of an argument #3 You Should Educate Yourself on Bible/Christianity etc...



That my friend is precisely my point.



Please feel free to illuminate me.
Romans 7

5 For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Balderdash! If that was so the prisons wouldn't be chock full of believers, and Christians wouldn't be more violent than non believers. I'm afraid your "creator" let you all down.

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion.
Even those who do evil understand the concept of good/evil.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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Even those who do evil understand the concept of good/evil.
Sociopaths argue otherwise.
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