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Old 12-08-2009, 02:25 AM
 
Location: George Town Tasmania, Australia
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Since there are so many questions raised and issues discussed concerning people’s basic assumptions about life, about their philosophy, about their religious beliefs, indeed, about their very approach to reality and the way their society goes about organizing things, it seemed like a useful exercise, useful at least to me and hopefully to some others at this site, to say a few things about: My Position and Beliefs: My Religion. Religion, in the sense that I am using it here, is the set of values, beliefs and attitudes each of us has as we go about our daily life at a particular moment in time, in this case, at the time of my writing of this post on the internet and in the case of the person reading this post, at the time of the response of that reader. I hope this opening note of some 1700 words provides a general, a useful, a helpful context for any continuing discussion you and I may have. If the note I strike is too long, I advise readers to just click me off, a simple enough exercise of the hand and the mind.-Ron Price in Australia.
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Apologetics is a branch of systematic theology, although some experience its thrust in religious studies or philosophy of religion courses. Some encounter it on the internet for the first time in a more populist and usually much less academic form. As I see it, apologetics is primarily concerned with the protection of a position, the refutation of the issues raised by that position's assailants and, in the larger sense, the exploration of that position in the context of prevailing philosophies and standards in a secular society, a religious society, indeed, any society past or present. All of us defend our positions whatever these positions are: atheistic, theistic, agnostic, humanistic, skeptic, cynic, realist, pragmatist and any one of a multitude of religions, denominations, sects, cults, isms and wasms.

Apologetics, to put it slightly differently, is concerned with answering both general and critical inquiries from others. In the main, though, apologetics deals with criticism of a position and dealing with that criticism in as rational a manner as possible. Apologetics can help explore the teachings of a religion or of a philosophy in the context of the prevailing religions and philosophies of the day as well as in the context of the common laws and standards of a secular society. Although the capacity to engage in critical self-reflection on the fundamentals of some position is a prerequisite of the task of engaging in apologetics, apologetics derives much of its impetus from a commitment to a position.

Given the role of apologetics in religious and philosophical history and in the development of the texts and ideas that are part and parcel of that history, it is surprising that contemporary communities generally undervalue its importance and often are not even aware of the existence of this sub-discipline of philosophy. Authors, writers, editors of journals and leaders known for defending points in arguments, for engaging in conflicts or for taking up certain positions that receive great popular scrutiny and/or are minority views engage in what today are essentially forms of secular apologetics.

Naturally in life, we all take positions on all sorts of topics, subjects, religions and philosophies. Often that position is inarticulate and poorly thought out if given any thought at all. With that said, though, the apologetics I engage in here is a never-ending exercise with time out for the necessary and inevitable quotidian tasks of life: eating, sleeping, drinking and a wide range of leisure activities. The apologetics that concerns me is not so much Christian or Islamic apologetics or one of a variety of those secular apologetics I referred to above, but Baha'i apologetics.

There are many points of comparison and contrast between any form of apologetics which I won't go into here. Readers here might like to check out Wikipedia for a birds-eye-view of the subject. Christians and Muslims will have the opportunity to defend their respective religions by the use of apologetics; secular humanists can also argue their cases if they so desire here. I in turn will defend the Baha'i Faith by the use of apologetics. In the process each of us will, hopefully, learn something about our respective Faiths, our religions, our various and our multitudinous positions, some of which we hold to our hearts dearly and some of which are of little interest.

At the outset, then, in this my first posting, my intention is simply to make this start, to state what you might call "my apologetics position." This brief statement indicates, in broad outline, where I am coming from in the weeks and months ahead. -Ron Price with thanks to Udo Schaefer, "Baha'i Apologetics?" Baha'i Studies Review, Vol. 10, 2001/02.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:50 AM
 
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The one Baha'i I knew was elderly and nearly senile so I don't think she's very representative. It sounds like a nice and tolerant faith from what I've gleaned. Here's an article I once read on Baha'i and science fiction.

The Baha'i and Science Fiction

Lots of good jazz musicians in it like Dizzy Gillespie, James Moody, and Tierney Sutton. I might be going on a weird tangent though.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:57 AM
 
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The one Baha'i I knew was elderly and nearly senile so I don't think she's very representative. It sounds like a nice and tolerant faith from what I've gleaned. Here's an article I once read on Baha'i and science fiction.

The Baha'i and Science Fiction

Lots of good jazz musicians in it like Dizzy Gillespie, James Moody, and Tierney Sutton. I might be going on a weird tangent though.
When I was a teenager I hung out with friends who were Bahais and they were the most tolerant folks. I attended many of the firesides with them. They believe in the unity of Mankind and that we all come to God in different ways. They believe for each age a prophet is sent. They believe that we need to help make this world a better place.

Core Beliefs
the purpose of life is to know and worship God, to acquire virtues, to promote the oneness of humankind and to carry forward an ever-advancing civilization

all humanity was created by one God and is part of one human race

work performed in the spirit of service is a form of worship

the soul, created at the moment of conception, is destined by God to reach the afterlife, where it will continue to progress until it attains the presence of God

Baha'i Practice
daily prayer and communion with God

High moral principles, including trustworthiness, chastity and honesty

Independent investigation of truth

A life dedicated to the service of humanity

Fellowship with the followers of all religions

Avoidance of excessive materialism, partisan politics, backbiting, alcohol, drugs and gambling

Core social beliefs
Abandonment of prejudice.

Men and women are equal.

Unity and relativity of religious truth.

Elimination of extreme of poverty and wealth.

Universal education.

The responsibility of each person to independently search for truth.

Establishment of a Global commonwealth of nations.

Religion in harmony with reason and the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

Here is the link for their website

Core Beliefs | Bahai Faith | Baha'i Faith (http://www.bahai.us/core-beliefs - broken link)
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:28 AM
 
Location: George Town Tasmania, Australia
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I could add much more, but you might like/prefer to go to the official international Baha'i site at: bahai.org....if you want more information.-Ron Price, tasmania
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Climate ethics is talking point at Copenhagen conference

This is the story of good will and optimism.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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I could add much more, but you might like/prefer to go to the official international Baha'i site at: bahai.org....if you want more information.-Ron Price, tasmania
Allah Abha Ron!
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:56 AM
 
Location: George Town Tasmania, Australia
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Default Allah'u'Abha

A belated Allah'u'Abha to you too.-Ron

Last edited by RonPrice; 01-05-2010 at 05:56 AM.. Reason: to corect spelling
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