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Old 01-10-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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Islam is a about 500 years behind Christianity. The "Christian Taliban" came in went. It was called the Inquistition.

Christianity will never again have the power and sway over enough people to pull silly little stunts like that ever again.
Keep watch, neighbor, the resurgence of the "Christian Taliban" is closer than you think.

Today they are called Dominionists.

Example? Look at every politician who is, or has, clamoured for the death penality for sexual predators, one of the key elements of the Dominionist Movement.

Bush43 also chose all of his repalecments for the DOJ from Regent's Law School, Pat Robertson's univeresty. The "Faith Based Initiative" is also a Dominionist stradegy, an attempt to move g'ment into the background in favor of the church. The man who advised Bush43 on this program when he was gov of Texas is known to ahve ties to the Dominionist Movement.

Their agenda includes placing their people at key positions of all levels of government, from small town mayors to Congress. The manner in which they hope to turn the US into a theodemocracy at best, theocracy at worst, is by using our very own laws against us.

Watch for any Cosntitutional Conventions or Referendums that support purely religious doctrines and/or increase the power of religion.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:13 PM
 
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Please. This is one idiot that wrote a book 3 people will read being interviewed by an idiot on a show that 20 people watch looking to get attention.

Are we against abortion? Yep, because it's the killing of children. Do we have a rash of Christians supporting the murderer of Dr. Tiller? No. Because that's murder as well and it's wrong.

It's just a few fools trying to get ratings and readers, but not stooped in reality. The vast majority of this country is comprised of Christians and will continue to be. And nobody's arming themselves for a revolution. Take the foil hat off and shut up. Nobody's buying your little rants.
Firstly, the number of Christians in this country is rapidly fading. If current trends hold, and do not accelorate much more, you wil loose your clear majority within two decades.

Secondly, how many Christians know of, or speak out agaisnt, such groups as the Army of God, The Lord's Army in Uganda, or the Tirpura Liberation Front in India, all Christian terrorist organizations? And really, how many Christians don't secretly support the killing of abortion providers?

Thirdly, the Dominionist agenda is quite alive and well in this Nation. Created by Rushdooney and forwarded by such notables as Pat Robertson, Graham, Warren, and other "ministers" as well as politicians.

Such organizations that are part of this agenda include the Chaldeon Foudnation, the Constitution Party, Family Research Council, Christian Coalition, and others.
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cncracer
I don’t think the Pakistani Taliban could ever match the atrocities on the christian church in today’s world. These fringe groups in both Islam and christianity are just a small uneducated segment, and will be absorbed in time.<<<


I think its bad to go into and change someone's response.... You need to write our own response if you don't agree. cncracer did't have "Pakistani" in the original response.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Firstly, the number of Christians in this country is rapidly fading. If current trends hold, and do not accelorate much more, you wil loose your clear majority within two decades.

Secondly, how many Christians know of, or speak out agaisnt, such groups as the Army of God, The Lord's Army in Uganda, or the Tirpura Liberation Front in India, all Christian terrorist organizations? And really, how many Christians don't secretly support the killing of abortion providers?

Thirdly, the Dominionist agenda is quite alive and well in this Nation. Created by Rushdooney and forwarded by such notables as Pat Robertson, Graham, Warren, and other "ministers" as well as politicians.

Such organizations that are part of this agenda include the Chaldeon Foudnation, the Constitution Party, Family Research Council, Christian Coalition, and others.
What address would you like me to send the extra large roll of tin foil to? You'll probably need it when the evil Christians start trying to take over.

You don't know anything about the millions of true Christians and what we believe. You're a drama queen, plain and simple.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What address would you like me to send the extra large roll of tin foil to? You'll probably need it when the evil Christians start trying to take over.

You don't know anything about the millions of true Christians and what we believe. You're a drama queen, plain and simple.
I think you have your eyes and ears closed...

Although conservative Christians, Evangelicals in particular have always been somewhat of a radical fringe in America, lately their messages have grown increasingly extreme. From death wish bumper stickers to praying for Qbama's death to virtual fatwas, they are deliberately creating an explosive situation that could easily lead to an assassination.
Merchandise began to be sold saying: Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8. This passage reads: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

Ever hear of the Christian Identity Movement? CHRISTIAN IDENTITY MOVEMENT
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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I think you have your eyes and ears closed...

Although conservative Christians, Evangelicals in particular have always been somewhat of a radical fringe in America, lately their messages have grown increasingly extreme. From death wish bumper stickers to praying for Qbama's death to virtual fatwas, they are deliberately creating an explosive situation that could easily lead to an assassination.
Merchandise began to be sold saying: Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8. This passage reads: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

Ever hear of the Christian Identity Movement? CHRISTIAN IDENTITY MOVEMENT
No....That's Psalms 109:8-9. The bumper sticker is Psalms 109:8. Is it classless? Maybe. But we don't want this fool in office anymore because he's systematically destroying a great country. However, nobody's wishing for death. Maybe a few idiots, but VERY few. Find a mainstream church that's preaching that. You can't.

The left is trying to take everything and overdramatize it, but the vast majority of Christians are living our lives the right way and are in no way extreme.

The left wants us to be, because that would give them ammo, but we're not. They'll just pick and choose one or two crazies and try to paste them as the "norm".

But when a muslim extremist goes on a rampage and kills soldiers while shouting to Allah, he's just been stressed out about war, and it's got nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

Makes perfect sense.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No....That's Psalms 109:8-9. The bumper sticker is Psalms 109:8. Is it classless? Maybe. But we don't want this fool in office anymore because he's systematically destroying a great country. However, nobody's wishing for death. Maybe a few idiots, but VERY few. Find a mainstream church that's preaching that. You can't.
It's more than a few, but a few is all it takes...Islamic extremist are the perfect example...They are only a few of the Muslim majority...
You know the democratic way is to vote the man out if you dislike him, not pray for his death....What kind of American does that?

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The left is trying to take everything and overdramatize it, but the vast majority of Christians are living our lives the right way and are in no way extreme.
I agree that most Christians are pacifist, but I see many, even here on CD that promote hatred of all sorts, even against fellow Christians. Nothing is being over dramatized.

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The left wants us to be, because that would give them ammo, but we're not. They'll just pick and choose one or two crazies and try to paste them as the "norm"
One or two? Obviously you didn't check my link...It's a hell of a lot more than a few, but I guess you'd rather not know.

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But when a muslim extremist goes on a rampage and kills soldiers while shouting to Allah, he's just been stressed out about war, and it's got nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

Makes perfect sense.
Actually, no that makes no sense at all...Muslim terrorists are all about their extreme view of Islam.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:21 AM
 
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Keep watch, neighbor, the resurgence of the "Christian Taliban" is closer than you think.

Today they are called Dominionists.

Example? Look at every politician who is, or has, clamoured for the death penality for sexual predators, one of the key elements of the Dominionist Movement.

Bush43 also chose all of his repalecments for the DOJ from Regent's Law School, Pat Robertson's univeresty. The "Faith Based Initiative" is also a Dominionist stradegy, an attempt to move g'ment into the background in favor of the church. The man who advised Bush43 on this program when he was gov of Texas is known to ahve ties to the Dominionist Movement.

Their agenda includes placing their people at key positions of all levels of government, from small town mayors to Congress. The manner in which they hope to turn the US into a theodemocracy at best, theocracy at worst, is by using our very own laws against us.

Watch for any Cosntitutional Conventions or Referendums that support purely religious doctrines and/or increase the power of religion.
That's getting a little TOO conspiracy theorist for me. I'll buy that a banking cartel pulls the stings on our politicians as best as it can (though they are a LONG ways from ruling the world), but a secret group of "dominionists" trying to take over the country and force christianity down everyone's throats? This sounds more like irrational hatred of religion than an actual threat to our freedom.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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What address would you like me to send the extra large roll of tin foil to? You'll probably need it when the evil Christians start trying to take over.

You don't know anything about the millions of true Christians and what we believe. You're a drama queen, plain and simple.
Just the kind of response I've come to expect from Christians, and why the Dominonist Movement is so dangerous to this Nation and her Founding Principles.

They rely on people like you who either refuse to see, or refuse to believe, that their own kind could plot to overthrown our basic Liberties and Rights.

And "millions of true Christians"? As soon as your thousand plus sects figure out what constitutes a "true Christian" get back to us.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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That's getting a little TOO conspiracy theorist for me. I'll buy that a banking cartel pulls the stings on our politicians as best as it can (though they are a LONG ways from ruling the world), but a secret group of "dominionists" trying to take over the country and force christianity down everyone's throats? This sounds more like irrational hatred of religion than an actual threat to our freedom.
The Dominionist Movement was started by Rushdooney, a radical Calvanist, who created the US Christian Recosntructionist Movement, which shouldn't be confused with other's in Europe that seek only to reinvent what they consider Christianity. Rushdooney also Founded the Chaldeon Foundation as well.

Watch their vids on Youtube, remove the fluffy language, and one can plainly see their agenda. Part 1, from the mouth of the man himself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQ6DlTQ114

People who forward this theodemocratic movement include such high visibility Evangelists like Pat Robertson, whose Regents Law School supplied many of the repalcement DOJ people Bush43 put in place.

Cornell Univeresty's Theocracy Watch's youtube series, while rather dry, is also very informative, and names names as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc8XS-PxFFA
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