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First. What did Judas do with his reward money?
One biblical accounts says that he bought a field with the money.
Another says that he threw the money away in the temple and the priests bought the field.
Second. We have two differnt accounts for the demise of Judas.
One account says he hung himself.
Another says he fell headlong, burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.
Oh gosh, there are so, so, so many. People will fight you on this one, though, plad (which I'm sure you know), based on the "some of it's historical/some is allegorical/we can't know which" argument, among others.
The single biggest contradiction that bugs and bugs and bugs me is in the NT (are you talking both OT and NT here?) where one gospel states a certain governor being in charge at the time of Jesus' birth, while another has Herod still alive, when Herod died 10 years prior to the governor being in office, but I've been around and around and around that racetrack and I don't bother much to go into the details any more. So that would be my biggest "hmmmmmmmmm" about errors in the Bible.
Well I hold firm in the belief that the bible was inspired by true events but a lot of the details vary because man wrote it down and then other men interpreted those writings. So although I believe in the "big picture" I think one can't trust every detail of the writings.
First. What did Judas do with his reward money?
One biblical accounts says that he bought a field with the money.
Another says that he threw the money away in the temple and the priests bought the field.
Second. We have two differnt accounts for the demise of Judas.
One account says he hung himself.
Another says he fell headlong, burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.
What do we think my learned friends?
First.. I don't see where it says that Judas bought the Potters Field. That was the chief priest who received the 30 pc. of silver, but since it was blood money they could not take it back into the church. BTW... that was fulfilling of old testament prophecy.
Second... since Judas hung himself during the festival of Passover, no work could be done until the festival was over.... hence he had to hang there. He hung until he fell headlong, and burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.
If you are talking about the eye witness accounts, I.E. the 4 gospels, think about it this way... they are from 4 different eye witness accounts. If they all told their accounts in the exact same way this discussion would be about how they copied off each other.
Oh gosh, there are so, so, so many. People will fight you on this one, though, plad (which I'm sure you know), based on the "some of it's historical/some is allegorical/we can't know which" argument, among others.
The single biggest contradiction that bugs and bugs and bugs me is in the NT (are you talking both OT and NT here?) where one gospel states a certain governor being in charge at the time of Jesus' birth, while another has Herod still alive, when Herod died 10 years prior to the governor being in office, but I've been around and around and around that racetrack and I don't bother much to go into the details any more. So that would be my biggest "hmmmmmmmmm" about errors in the Bible.
Yes, the Quirinius issue regarding JC's birth is another good one. The Encyclopaedia Brittanica lists 136 different dates from Christian sources for the birth of JC. 136!! What magnificent certainty eh??
So then you don't believe that the Bible is the infallible and literal word of God?
LOL! How did you not already know that from all my non-mainstream opinions...LOL
No I don't I never have, but I do strongly believe in God's existence, the presence of the Holy Spirit, the immaculate conception and that God sent his only son to earth to save us from sin, Jesus Christ.
I have no trouble believing in my faith as long as I don't consider the bible to be infallible...if the bible had to be considered infallible as a prerequisite to faith then I would have to have serious doubts as to what type of God I was believing in....Phew! glad that's not the case!
First.. I don't see where it says that Judas bought the Potters Field.
18Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Acts 1:18 (King James Version)
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That was the chief priest who received the 30 pc. of silver, but since it was blood money they could not take it back into the church. BTW... that was fulfilling of old testament prophecy.
Exactly! That's the contradiction. Just who did buy the field, Judas as stated in Acts or the chief priest?
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Second... since Judas hung himself during the festival of Passover, no work could be done until the festival was over.... hence he had to hang there. He hung until he fell headlong, and burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.
Perhaps you would like to show me where it actually says that.........or is this just your personal interpretation of what you think it means rather than reading what it actually says?
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If you are talking about the eye witness accounts, I.E. the 4 gospels, think about it this way... they are from 4 different eye witness accounts. If they all told their accounts in the exact same way this discussion would be about how they copied off each other.
Sorry but the gospels are not eye-witness accounts.
Well I hold firm in the belief that the bible was inspired by true events but a lot of the details vary because man wrote it down and then other men interpreted those writings. So although I believe in the "big picture" I think one can't trust every detail of the writings.
I would agree. Not only were the original versions of biblical stories and events influenced by the interpretations of others but they were rewritten over and over again by hand for centuries before the advent of chron copy paper or any sort of photocopy machine.
I guess I would disagree with you, however, on your point about all events detailed in the Bible as being "true events." Some are allegorical and very folkloric in nature, IMO.
Well I hold firm in the belief that the bible was inspired by true events but a lot of the details vary because man wrote it down and then other men interpreted those writings. So although I believe in the "big picture" I think one can't trust every detail of the writings.
........but just how much of the "big picture" is correct? 10%, 40%, 90%? This is the problem! Either you believe that the bible is the infallible word of your god or it isn't and if it isn't, you are going to be faced with so many problems.
What is true?
What is allegorical?
Who decides what is true?
Who decides what is allegorical?
Is this right?
Is this wrong?
Was this translator correct, or was it that one?
............so many questions!!!
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