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What exactly would "pushing/preaching their sexual preference" in schools entail? This has never happened. Informing children that there are people who like the same sex, that it is OK to be gay and that some families are made up of two parents of the same sex is not pushing or preaching homosexuality. It is simply stating facts and a educating them in reality.
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Do you think that it's a form of child abuse for some parents to teach thier children against homosexuallity?
If it is child abuse, I wonder what will be the interventions in the future , fines, prison or sterilization? This is serious business.
You don't do any favors to gays by suggesting that they should push their sexual orientation or life style on anyone or teach it to school kids!
Just let it go.
Huh...did I suggest that at all? It was example silly goose! In other words xtians think it is okay to push their agenda but nobody else can push theirs.
It happened to me at multiple Christian households when I was a child.
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How did your parents respond?
Did they voice their objections to the families involved?
Did they teach you to "listen and be tolerant of another point of view"?
Did they teach you to "ask the family to please refrain from proselytizing?"
Did they throw a "hissy fit?"
Or "none of the above?"
I used to go to a UPC church....they seriously teach their kids to "evangelize" to everyone no matter what. On the flip side they do everything they can to "protect" their little lambs from any opposing view point. I was reprimanded (lol!) by a person for telling MY OWN child that I was wrong about 'god' and no longer believed. "I should keep it to myself" is what I was told. So yes...hardcore christians will have a hissy fit if their kids are actually told that their are other viewpoints and choices available!
I used to go to a UPC church....they seriously teach their kids to "evangelize" to everyone no matter what. On the flip side they do everything they can to "protect" their little lambs from any opposing view point. I was reprimanded (lol!) by a person for telling MY OWN child that I was wrong about 'god' and no longer believed. "I should keep it to myself" is what I was told. So yes...hardcore christians will have a hissy fit if their kids are actually told that their are other viewpoints and choices available!
In regard to the reprimand --first of all, why would you be attending a Christian Church when you "no longer believed"? Did you tell them to "stuff it?" You can do that, you know.
How do you generalize from the people at your UPC church to "hardcore Christians?"
I consider myself a "hardcore Christian" (Cathollic) and I most certainly WILL NOT have a "hissy fit" if my children are "told there are other viewpoints." In fact, the window INTO those "other viewpoints" was actually opened BY ME in the context of OUR Catholic Home!
If you want to make a statement about "some Christians" or "the Christians at my former Church" or "certain denominations have tendency to..." and back it up with facts, by all means do so. But your leap from one specific example to the general ("hardcore Christians") is lacking in basic logic and intellectual integrity. In fact, it verges dangerously close to "Christian-baiting."
DaniMae, you asked why it's OK for Christians to push their views of everyone but not the other way around. In fact it's not OK. But apparently (and I plead guilty for my perspective as a non-Christian) they believe it's OK--so they're not asking for permission.
DaniMae, you asked why it's OK for Christians to push their views of everyone but not the other way around. In fact it's not OK. But apparently (and I plead guilty for my perspective as a non-Christian) they believe it's OK--so they're not asking for permission.
Again, are you speaking of a specific denomination, a group of Christians you know, or "all Christians"?
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You don't do any favors to gays by suggesting that they should push their sexual orientation or life style on anyone or teach it to school kids!
Just let it go.
Wow. You should re-read the OP, learningCA. The phrase "for example..." is right there, at least on my screen. Not yours?
Dani's just begging the question that it's OK for Christians to foist their beliefs on others because it's part of their beliefs, a sort of "Go forth and evangelize!" clause. Many of them have told me so to my face.
However, then they are mightily disturbed by what they perceive (and that's all that it is, BTW) as a "gay agenda" (See The Village Idiot Pat Robertson for some stunning examples of Foot in MOUTH disease in this regard).
"Turn out the lights, Martha! They're here again!"
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Again, are you speaking of a specific denomination, a group of Christians you know, or "all Christians"?Moderator cut: edit
In the OP's defense, I have not EVER seen a group of gays, naturalists, homeopaths, psychopaths or any other secularists trundling down my driveway.
Now on the other hand, there I am, enjoying a nice spring say and lo and behold:
Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Presbyterians, Dreamers of The Second Coming ["we can save you and your family, sir!"], etc? There they are.
They're only trying to help, right?
You're partly right, DreamingSpires; we may be slightly generalizing, but then, we get worse pigeon-hole treatment from (oh I know, not perfect you, but... ) from lots of other Christians and Muslims, right here on C-D. Easy to say we're overgeneralizing, but again, why no secularists on my drive, only Christians. About 3 times a year, and my town only has a population of 10,000?
Don't even try to tell me many, many Christians don't feel it's their God-driven duty to preach to and save us all. C'mon!!!!.... Sheesh!
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First of all, there should not be many atheist parents in the South.
If you start counting them, they'll bizarrely happen to be members of one City-Data
Howz 'bout us ex-socialist Canucks who now live in the damp Pacific NW? What's our generalized belief system, standing here in our sandals with our socks on?
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Huh? You must be joking us, right?
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