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Jeff, thanks for your reply.
It's possible that we can agree on some issues.
For agreement I would have to know the specifics, not just a label of evil.
Agreements may be fine, but they are not definitions.
That was my whole point. There is no universally accepted definition of "evil". Even if 50 million people agree on certain points.
I personally don't use the word "evil" because it explains nothing.
With this I think it's best that I depart from this thread, because I'm sure that many readers, as well as posters, have certainly developed a vile contempt for me. I see no point for me to continue.
Oh vis, not at all. Like I had to do, you'll need to develope some thicker skin for the Religion forum! Usually I'm the one on the outs...and often of my own making.
We are allowed to disagree with each other as long as it's kept respectful, and as far as I've seen we have done so and so have you!
As far as I'm concerned, there is definately no vile contempt involved, for you or anyone. Please don't feel that way.
There you have it! Is the bombing acceptable or not. Probably depends on who does the bombing and who are the victims.
In one case it will acceptable, in another case it will be not acceptable.
Because this is primarily a christian forum I can guess with fair accuracy how the examples I listed several posts ago would be handled.
No, it doesn't depend on WHO is doing the bombing and WHO is the victim. It depends on the motivation behind the bombing NO MATTER WHO the bomber and victim is. Is the motivation behind it strickly for the pleasure and power associated with hurting other people? That is where you define evil.
Oh vis, not at all. Like I had to do, you'll need to develope some thicker skin for the Religion forum! Usually I'm the one on the outs...and often of my own making.
We are allowed to disagree with each other as long as it's kept respectful, and as far as I've seen we have done so and so have you!
As far as I'm concerned, there is definately no vile contempt involved, for you or anyone. Please don't feel that way.
No, it doesn't depend on WHO is doing the bombing and WHO is the victim. It depends on the motivation behind the bombing NO MATTER WHO the bomber and victim is. Is the motivation behind it strickly for the pleasure and power associated with hurting other people? That is where you define evil.
And I agree with you! No offense is meant to Vis, but I just don't get that line of thinking. There is a definate good, and definate evil. Man's lables and perceptions of the whole thing are inconsequential.
Jeff, thanks for your reply.
It's possible that we can agree on some issues.
For agreement I would have to know the specifics, not just a label of evil.
Agreements may be fine, but they are not definitions.
That was my whole point. There is no universally accepted definition of "evil". Even if 50 million people agree on certain points.
I personally don't use the word "evil" because it explains nothing.
With this I think it's best that I depart from this thread, because I'm sure that many readers, as well as posters, have certainly developed a vile contempt for me. I see no point for me to continue.
So then bombing civilians isn't evil?? I thought you already said it was.
Whatever.
It's not vile contempt, visvaldis, it's downright confusion.
Atheist sure spend a lot of money on porn. It has to be atheist because the majority of Americans are God fearing Christians and they would never spend money on porn.
It's all relative.
My mother tore the Song of Solomon out of our family bible saying it was nothing but porn. I tried to get my hands on those missing pages with heightened interest after that - only to be mildly disappointed when I did.
I believe evil has it's roots in bigotry & intolerence, american talk radio is full of it. If Christ were alive today what would he think of Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson & the rest of those bigots who say they teach the word of god?
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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I believe that satan uses people to do his deeds. For instance, if the Bible tells dads not to provoke his children to wrath, that means it is then possible to bring about the wrath of others with your actions. So, in a broader sense, it's possible to provoke other feelings in people, both good and bad. Therefore, things like bullying in school can be blamed for people finally snapping over the cruelty and helping drag people to their lowest for which they and the person who snapped will ultimately be responsible. Satan succeeded, but it is we who will pay for not resisting him. Same goes for tempting people. You are responsible for giving into temptations, but so is the person who tempted you. This is evil and it comes in all forms and degrees.
I believe that satan uses people to do his deeds. For instance, if the Bible tells dads not to provoke his children to wrath, that means it is then possible to bring about the wrath of others with your actions. So, in a broader sense, it's possible to provoke other feelings in people, both good and bad. Therefore, things like bullying in school can be blamed for people finally snapping over the cruelty and helping drag people to their lowest for which they and the person who snapped will ultimately be responsible. Satan succeeded, but it is we who will pay for not resisting him. Same goes for tempting people. You are responsible for giving into temptations, but so is the person who tempted you. This is evil and it comes in all forms and degrees.
How true, my dear, and it commonly starts out with quite harmless games, isn't it? (never felt like LOL!)
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