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Old 05-25-2018, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Awesome!

Yup, there is order naturally occuring in nature. Numbers demonstrate that, no 'design' required.
Order = is = design.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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Ridiculous question.


Also, hell is not a place of eternal torment, scriptures of hell are Jewish idioms that Gentiles don't understand. Hell is the outer court of Gentiles.
I'm sorry for you. I really am.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'm sorry for you. I really am.
Don't be. He's twice the man you'll ever be, in every possible respect.

You would be worthy of pity, if Moderator cut: edit .

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Old 05-25-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I'm sorry for you. I really am.
Why?

He is one of the genuinely sweetest, most compassionate, honest people on this forum.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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Why?

He is one of the genuinely sweetest, most compassionate, honest people on this forum.
I wouldn't have dared say otherwise. Yes, he's a nice guy. I wish others were as nice. He's not like some obnoxious, bigoted, rude, jerk duds. HF is a genuinely nice person. But my comment had nothing to do with the way he treats others.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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Also, hell is not a place of eternal torment, scriptures of hell are Jewish idioms that Gentiles don't understand. Hell is the outer court of Gentiles.
I can agree biblical hell is Not a place of torment because Jesus and the old Hebrew Scripture teach that the dead are in an unconscious sleep-like state as per Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14.
Since on the day that Jesus died as per Acts 2:27 Jesus went to biblical hell, then how could the Bible's hell be the outer court of the Gentiles for dead Jesus, rather biblical hell is just the temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead until they are resurrected out of biblical hell. Being 'awakened from death's sleep' as Daniel looked forward - Daniel 12:2,13.
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Old 05-26-2018, 01:14 AM
 
Location: White Rock BC
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God is not a judge of person. No one goes to hell but just heaven. Whether that person be an 8 year old child or Adolf Hitler. God knows only love and we are here of our own free will and will return to heaven, all of us.
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Old 05-26-2018, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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God is not a judge of person. No one goes to hell but just heaven. Whether that person be an 8 year old child or Adolf Hitler. God knows only love and we are here of our own free will and will return to heaven, all of us.
So, prior to this life we were all in heaven and 'chose' to dwell 3-score and ten plus years on Planet Earth, first as a newborn and gradually dying, for the sheer adventure of it? Whether or not that's true I have no idea but it does sound quite exciting . . .
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Old 05-26-2018, 04:04 AM
 
Location: NSW
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God is not a judge of person. No one goes to hell but just heaven. Whether that person be an 8 year old child or Adolf Hitler. God knows only love and we are here of our own free will and will return to heaven, all of us.
Maybe, but in the latter case some degree of punishment and penance is necessary.
Eternal torment though is not the right option, and accomplishes nothing.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Twilight Zone
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Maybe, but in the latter case some degree of punishment and penance is necessary.
Eternal torment though is not the right option, and accomplishes nothing.
Yes Agreed 100%. Hell is necessary for punishment and penance but it is only temporary. Just as God is eternal, so is his patience in waiting until the evil one achieves enough penance at which point he will go to Heaven. The eternality of God's patience guarantees that everyone will go to Heaven eventually.
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