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Old 02-27-2010, 05:31 AM
 
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We are expected to believe that a Christian who gives up faith is still a Christian.
No you are not but why did you miss out this bit?:
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You seem to believe that no "christian" will ever do anything wrong, have you never done anything bad in your life?
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It's more complex than that, isn't it.
Do explain because your words make no sense.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:58 AM
 
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Stoning of those who rebelled against the deity who defined the children of Israel was absolutely essential, else there would have been no purpose to Israel.
This kind of mentality is bad for society.

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are you referring to when Jesus said "whoever has not sinned among you, let them cast the stone"
No which makes your arrogance in the following lines pointless. I'm referring to the old testament, a place full of little gems like these:
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10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite. 11 The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.) 12 They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them. 13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
You can call me all the names you want just because I'm pointing this out but it doesn't change the fact that these passages are still there.

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or something like that?
If you are not well versed in biblical passages then look it up.

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Who made it into law to stone criminals?
god did. Read Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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You need to remember in that time child sacrifice happened all the time so there were very different outlooks.
After seeing some kids behavior in stores and on the street, I am not all that sure that that is a bad idea..........
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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This kind of mentality is bad for society.
That kind of comment is bad for society.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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That kind of comment is bad for society.
Sorry but you can't stone me in this part of the world for using my free speech.

Stoning is and has always been bad, that is why we got rid of these practices long ago. Anyone who thinks otherwise is morally corrupt.

Have a nice week.

Edit: The post below mine is emphasizes exactly what the terms "selective reading" and "quote-mining" mean.

Last edited by coosjoaquin; 02-28-2010 at 01:00 PM..
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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Sorry
Why?
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Stoning is and has always been bad, that is why we got rid of these practices long ago. Anyone who thinks otherwise is morally corrupt.
Morality isn't the only thing that becomes questionable in the case of a person supporting stoning.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Absolutely nothing comes before religion when people take their beliefs to a fanatical level. If some of these folks were put in an Abraham/Issac situation, they'd probably make a mad dash to the kitchen for the knife drawer.

Hopefully this person has good social support outside of her family members. Perhaps in the future when we're a little less backwards, family will come before religion.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Edit: The post below mine is emphasizes exactly what the terms "selective reading" and "quote-mining" mean.
Just wondering what it is you are apologising for.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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Absolutely nothing comes before religion when people take their beliefs to a fanatical level. If some of these folks were put in an Abraham/Issac situation, they'd probably make a mad dash to the kitchen for the knife drawer.
In the confident belief that 'Isaac' would be raised to life to continue the family line.
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