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Old 02-21-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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Default Virgin Islands legends and a thought on a question about the Jesus myth

Anyone who has lived on the U.S Virgin Islands as an elementary school student would remember the legends of the cowfoot woman (St.Thomas) and the goatfoot woman (St. Croix). What was interesting was that due to the passing down of the legends we ALL believed they existed even though none of us ever saw either of them nor did our ancestors. In fact, there were moments when one of our peers would point to a spot in the bushes claiming to see one of these fine creatures. They would say:

"Look right over there! You don't see her?" while having a hand on our shoulder.

We would look on intently to the spot where they pointed to until we believed we saw her too especially if the person insisted, "You don't see her right there?!?"

We would then meet other peers along the way and tell them we saw the cowfoot/goatfoot woman and reinforce the fear that was already there amongst the children of the community.

Despite this, none of this stopped us from passing on the legends to our children even though we arrived at an age where we knew the stories were nonsense. We often did it to scare our children into acting straight and avoiding wandering off into bushes or into other strange places that we thought was dangerous to them. While there was some good in this, it came down to controlling them while they were out of our presence. The fear factor which created the control was based on two creatures none of us ever saw.

Do you see a parallel here between the mythical story of Jesus, Christianity (religion in general) and the method of control?
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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Anyone who has lived on the U.S Virgin Islands as an elementary school student would remember the legends of the cowfoot woman (St.Thomas) and the goatfoot woman (St. Croix). What was interesting was that due to the passing down of the legends we ALL believed they existed even though none of us ever saw either of them nor did our ancestors. In fact, there were moments when one of our peers would point to a spot in the bushes claiming to see one of these fine creatures. They would say:

"Look right over there! You don't see her?" while having a hand on our shoulder.

We would look on intently to the spot where they pointed to until we believed we saw her too especially if the person insisted, "You don't see her right there?!?"

We would then meet other peers along the way and tell them we saw the cowfoot/goatfoot woman and reinforce the fear that was already there amongst the children of the community.

Despite this, none of this stopped us from passing on the legends to our children even though we arrived at an age where we knew the stories were nonsense. We often did it to scare our children into acting straight and avoiding wandering off into bushes or into other strange places that we thought was dangerous to them. While there was some good in this, it came down to controlling them while they were out of our presence. The fear factor which created the control was based on two creatures none of us ever saw.

Do you see a parallel here between the mythical story of Jesus, Christianity (religion in general) and the method of control?
i see the big goatfoot woman here on st croix all the time,, please stay out of the bushes the goatfoot woman is more aggressive now, she eats children when they are still alive nothing like a little scare tactic to keep the sheeple in check!!!!
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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i see the big goatfoot woman here on st croix all the time,, please stay out of the bushes the goatfoot woman is more aggressive now, she eats children when they are still alive nothing like a little scare tactic to keep the sheeple in check!!!!
You would think after all these years, both of them would be dead. I guess they are eternal too.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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... Do you see a parallel here between the mythical story of Jesus, Christianity (religion in general) and the method of control?
I don't think any of us can really know if it is the truth or a mythical story. So, someone like you who definitively says that it didn't happen is just as ignorant as someone who blindly believes it did happen, in my opinion.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:18 PM
 
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I don't think any of us can really know if it is the truth or a mythical story. So, someone like you who definitively says that it didn't happen is just as ignorant as someone who blindly believes it did happen, in my opinion.
Ah...but I am one of those non-Christians that actually believes Jesus existed. All the bells and whistles about him being born of a virgin, born perfect, son of god, rose from the dead and is now god or was always god jazz is what I am referring to as mythical.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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Anyone who has lived on the U.S Virgin Islands as an elementary school student would remember the legends of the cowfoot woman (St.Thomas) and the goatfoot woman (St. Croix). What was interesting was that due to the passing down of the legends we ALL believed they existed even though none of us ever saw either of them nor did our ancestors. In fact, there were moments when one of our peers would point to a spot in the bushes claiming to see one of these fine creatures. They would say:

"Look right over there! You don't see her?" while having a hand on our shoulder.

We would look on intently to the spot where they pointed to until we believed we saw her too especially if the person insisted, "You don't see her right there?!?"

We would then meet other peers along the way and tell them we saw the cowfoot/goatfoot woman and reinforce the fear that was already there amongst the children of the community.

Despite this, none of this stopped us from passing on the legends to our children even though we arrived at an age where we knew the stories were nonsense. We often did it to scare our children into acting straight and avoiding wandering off into bushes or into other strange places that we thought was dangerous to them. While there was some good in this, it came down to controlling them while they were out of our presence. The fear factor which created the control was based on two creatures none of us ever saw.

Do you see a parallel here between the mythical story of Jesus, Christianity (religion in general) and the method of control?
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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Anyone who has lived on the U.S Virgin Islands as an elementary school student would remember the legends of the cowfoot woman (St.Thomas) and the goatfoot woman (St. Croix).
Are they like the "duppies" of Jamaica?
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Are they like the "duppies" of Jamaica?
You really keep up with Jamaica, huh? LOL

Well technically no. What Jamaicans call duppy, we call Jumbie. Both are carryovers from the African motherland.

I know Jamaica very well as they have a similar culture to mine and I have been there some 20 times or so.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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You really keep up with Jamaica, huh? LOL

Well technically no. What Jamaicans call duppy, we call Jumbie. Both are carryovers from the African motherland.

I know Jamaica very well as they have a similar culture to mine and I have been there some 20 times or so.
LOL...yeah, I guess so, huh? Blame it on reggae. Once I fell in love with the music, I felt obligated to understand it. Music tells a tale and explains a culture. Too many people do not take time to understand what the music is telling them. If you understand the music, you better understand the people...and that makes us all get along better.

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Old 02-22-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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LOL...yeah, I guess so, huh? Blame it on reggae. Once I fell in love with the music, I felt obligated to understand it. Music tells a tale and explains a culture. Too many people do not take time to understand what the music is telling them. If you understand the music, you better understand the people...and that makes us all get along better.
Very true.

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