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Old 03-10-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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such as a perfect system resulted from a bang.
A bang? What bang?
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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A bang? What bang?

the universe was resulted from the big bang .

uncontrolled bang always make a random result .

the movement of the universe is not random .

this is one of the proofs for the one who made the bang and controlled its result.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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the universe was resulted from the big bang .

uncontrolled bang always make a random result .

the movement of the universe is not random .

this is one of the proofs for the one who made the bang and controlled its result.

The big bang is only one hypothesis. No one knows yet how the universe was created. (There is no proof) If we are honest we say that we do not know, not that there is a creator that somehow caused or controlled it.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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the universe was resulted from the big bang .

uncontrolled bang always make a random result .

the movement of the universe is not random .

this is one of the proofs for the one who made the bang and controlled its result.

You do realize there was no bang that the universe resulted from, don't you? The term "Big Bang" was coined by Sir Fred Hoyle as a means to mock the theory which was fairly new. Hoyle believed the universe had eternally existed in a Steady State. Regardless, Hoyle's "Big Bang" term caught on and has been commonly used ever since, which is ironic considering his intention was meant as ridicule.

Regardless, as I said there was no bang at the beginning. Rather the theory is that it began no earlier than the Planck epoch as a massive inflation for an incredibly short period of time, and ultimately continued expanding which it's still doing to this very day. No bang, no noise, just an enormous expansion.

It's incorrect to say that the "movement of the universe is not random." The universe undergoes continuous change. Nothing in it stays the same. You state, "uncontrolled bang always make a random result." Once again, you're relating the formation of the universe with a bang. Interestingly, though, just look around and it's pretty easy to note that many things randomly happen in the universe. For example, on the grand scale of things, if the universe and everything in it were perfectly orderly, all stars would be identical, all galaxies would have the exact same shape and contain the exact same number of stars, etc. But that's not what we see. We see variation and differences. The universe will continue to do whatever it does regardless of whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not.

You might want to think a bit more carefully before rushing to declare certain things as being definitive and absolute. No one has all the answers. We are all in the on-going process of making new discoveries and learning new things.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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how much time did he stay inside the whale?

and in which land he was released?
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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how much time did he stay inside the whale?

and in which land he was released?
Three days. One would think he would've been pretty ripe and well into the process of being digested by then. Doesn't say which land he was barfed up on, just dry land, presumably somewhere along the Persian Gulf. He was then told to go to Nineveh which is in northern Iraq.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Jonah 2:1, "And the Lord prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah, and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

So before anyone debates how long, at least stop perpetuating the silly mis-translation that there was a whale. There was no whale. Only a big fish.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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The people of Nineveh were saved despite Jonah's defying of God
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Jonah 2:1, "And the Lord prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah, and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

So before anyone debates how long, at least stop perpetuating the silly mis-translation that there was a whale. There was no whale. Only a big fish.
Although there are a few, there aren't many fish that are large enough to swallow a person whole. Whales resemble extremely large fish, even though they're mammals. I doubt people (way back when) had any idea that whales were not fish. In any case, it's just a fantasy tale, not unlike children's stories like Little Red Riding Hood (Granny was eaten by the wolf, and rescued unharmed by the woodsman) or The Hobbit. Bad things happen to good people as well as bad people. If you're good, God will take care of you when bad things happen. But if you're bad.... you might be eaten by a grue!
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The people of Nineveh were saved despite Jonah's defying of God
Jonah carried out his task. He complained and tried to hide from it, but in the end he did it.
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