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Old 01-29-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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I've got it playing now. He is a Baptist minister so I'm doubting he is going to call on psychology to explain it.

Edit: he just said "what cults will do for a lie most Christians won't do for the truth" I don't think that has much to do with lies or truth but the level of control a group exerts over it's members. Most people don't belong to groups that demand they shun friends or family or die over a medical procedure.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I've got it playing now. He is a Baptist minister so I'm doubting he is going to call on psychology to explain it.

Edit: he just said "what cults will do for a lie most Christians won't do for the truth" I don't think that has much to do with lies or truth but the level of control a group exerts over it's members. Most people don't belong to groups that demand they shun friends or family or die over a medical procedure.
Ironic that someone from the blood cult of Christianity is condemning another cult.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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baptists are autonomous unlike the centrally controlled jehovah's witnesses.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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baptists are autonomous unlike the centrally controlled jehovah's witnesses.
Baptists are Christians. Christianity is a blood cult.
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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Baptists are Christians. Christianity is a blood cult.
Christians today are not killing people for not being christians
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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baptists are autonomous unlike the centrally controlled jehovah's witnesses.




JW,s are controlled by the word of God--- We use our free will to listen to the real teachers of Jesus'. Luke 10:16---- not a wise place to stand being in opposition.
Baptist religion is far removed from God. Like all trinity religions.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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JW,s are controlled by the word of God--- We use our free will to listen to the real teachers of Jesus'. Luke 10:16---- not a wise place to stand being in opposition.
Baptist religion is far removed from God. Like all trinity religions.

BS JW do not worship God nor Jesus you don't listen to teachers of Jesus Baptists unlike JWs do not worship an angel. the JW new world translations bible is twisted and filled with errors. your sect is founded by Charles T Russell. who was a former seventh day adventist

What do baptists believe?

1. Jesus is Lord

Baptists believe that Jesus Christ, being eternally God, only begotten Son and the visible expression of the invisible God, effectively procured salvation for all creation through his death, burial and resurrection. He is the one assigned by God the Father to rule with authority over all of creation. Every area of the believer’s life and the life of the church is to be subject to the Lord.
2. The Word of God is the Authoritative Rule of Faith and Practice

Baptists believe that God communicates his will through the inspired Word of God. For Baptists, the Bible is the final authority in matters of faith and practice. It is to be interpreted responsibly under the guidance of God’s Holy Spirit within the community of faith.
3. The Priesthood of All Believers

The Bible affirms the value of each person as having been created in the image of God, and also declares each person morally responsible for his/her own nature and behaviour. Baptists believe that inherent in the worth of each person is also the right and competency of each individual personally to deal directly with God through Jesus Christ. This principle also suggests our responsibility to serve other believers in intercession and nurture: we are priests to each other. Baptists believe that no group or individual has any right to compel others—forcefully or politically—to believe or worship as they do. Rather, Baptists have historically been champions of religious liberty.
4. A Believers’ Church

Baptists believe that Jesus Christ chooses to form his church by bringing together believers for the purpose of worship, witness, fellowship and ministry (both spiritual and social). Baptists recognize the church universal as all who truly profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. They also profess their understanding of the church as being visibly expressed in local congregations. Each local church must thus be made up of believers who, upon their profession of faith and their baptism (almost always by immersion), are incorporated into the local church through the activity of the Holy Spirit. Baptists believe that Believers’ Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are the two ordinances required by the New Testament and are to be administered by the local church.
5. Mission and Evangelism

We have a story to tell that is mandated by our Lord in the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19-20. Our calling is to share God’s message of love and salvation with each person. Each Christian has a duty to share their faith with others. Baptists continue to be very active in mission efforts, both in local and global contexts. We recognize that mission is not just evangelism, but also includes promoting justice, social welfare, healing, education and peace in the world. It is a holistic approach that expresses care for both the needs of the human soul and the social needs that affect all of life.
6. Church Autonomy and Association

Government in a local church is controlled by the principles of the priesthood of all believers, the Lordship of Christ, the authority of the Scriptures and the guidance and power of the Holy Spirit. Christ, present in the lives of congregational members, leads them corporately to discover and obey his mind and will. Such ‘congregational government’ calls for and expresses the equality and responsibility of believers under the Lordship of Christ. Baptist churches also recognize the need to temper the exercise of their autonomy in order to ‘associate’ by linking regionally, nationally and internationally for ministry, mission, support and fellowship.
7. Freedom and Equality

Emerging from our convictions about the priesthood of all believers, we affirm that in Jesus Christ all people are equal. Each one is free to be in relationship with God and to express a faith that is not coerced. Faith cannot be predetermined by someone else, but is the right of and responsibility of each individual as they seek a relationship with God based on their own personal commitments. A further extension of the principle of the Lordship of Christ and the priesthood of believers is to be found in the Baptist conviction that there must exist a separation between the church and civil governments.

http://baptist.ca/about/what-do-baptists-believe/
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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Holy crap Meester! Look at the similarities not the differences.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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BS JW do not worship God nor Jesus you don't listen to teachers of Jesus Baptists unlike JWs do not worship an angel. the JW new world translations bible is twisted and filled with errors. your sect is founded by Charles T Russell. who was a former seventh day adventist

What do baptists believe?

1. Jesus is Lord

Baptists believe that Jesus Christ, being eternally God, only begotten Son and the visible expression of the invisible God, effectively procured salvation for all creation through his death, burial and resurrection. He is the one assigned by God the Father to rule with authority over all of creation. Every area of the believer’s life and the life of the church is to be subject to the Lord.
2. The Word of God is the Authoritative Rule of Faith and Practice

Baptists believe that God communicates his will through the inspired Word of God. For Baptists, the Bible is the final authority in matters of faith and practice. It is to be interpreted responsibly under the guidance of God’s Holy Spirit within the community of faith.
3. The Priesthood of All Believers

The Bible affirms the value of each person as having been created in the image of God, and also declares each person morally responsible for his/her own nature and behaviour. Baptists believe that inherent in the worth of each person is also the right and competency of each individual personally to deal directly with God through Jesus Christ. This principle also suggests our responsibility to serve other believers in intercession and nurture: we are priests to each other. Baptists believe that no group or individual has any right to compel others—forcefully or politically—to believe or worship as they do. Rather, Baptists have historically been champions of religious liberty.
4. A Believers’ Church

Baptists believe that Jesus Christ chooses to form his church by bringing together believers for the purpose of worship, witness, fellowship and ministry (both spiritual and social). Baptists recognize the church universal as all who truly profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. They also profess their understanding of the church as being visibly expressed in local congregations. Each local church must thus be made up of believers who, upon their profession of faith and their baptism (almost always by immersion), are incorporated into the local church through the activity of the Holy Spirit. Baptists believe that Believers’ Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are the two ordinances required by the New Testament and are to be administered by the local church.
5. Mission and Evangelism

We have a story to tell that is mandated by our Lord in the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19-20. Our calling is to share God’s message of love and salvation with each person. Each Christian has a duty to share their faith with others. Baptists continue to be very active in mission efforts, both in local and global contexts. We recognize that mission is not just evangelism, but also includes promoting justice, social welfare, healing, education and peace in the world. It is a holistic approach that expresses care for both the needs of the human soul and the social needs that affect all of life.
6. Church Autonomy and Association

Government in a local church is controlled by the principles of the priesthood of all believers, the Lordship of Christ, the authority of the Scriptures and the guidance and power of the Holy Spirit. Christ, present in the lives of congregational members, leads them corporately to discover and obey his mind and will. Such ‘congregational government’ calls for and expresses the equality and responsibility of believers under the Lordship of Christ. Baptist churches also recognize the need to temper the exercise of their autonomy in order to ‘associate’ by linking regionally, nationally and internationally for ministry, mission, support and fellowship.
7. Freedom and Equality

Emerging from our convictions about the priesthood of all believers, we affirm that in Jesus Christ all people are equal. Each one is free to be in relationship with God and to express a faith that is not coerced. Faith cannot be predetermined by someone else, but is the right of and responsibility of each individual as they seek a relationship with God based on their own personal commitments. A further extension of the principle of the Lordship of Christ and the priesthood of believers is to be found in the Baptist conviction that there must exist a separation between the church and civil governments.

What do Baptists believe? – Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec



I attended a Baptist church years ago--- The teacher said--say 3 lines of prayer with me and you are born again=100% lie--The only way one becomes born again = Eph 4:22-24
The Baptist tell-anyone that lie--then ask for the tithe which we are no longer under.
Mr Osteen does the same--an ear tickler for the tithe.
When I was attending Baptist church--I was a drug dealer, drug taker, drunkard,thief, fornicator--plus others--- the liar said I would be born again ---reality says I remained-DEAD in my sins.
Plus they teach, serve and worship a non existent trinity god. All who listen to them will lose.
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