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Old 02-08-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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Sadly, TRUTH IS offensive unto those souls who have never "received a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved"!

Simply sad for you.......

Yet while breath(Spirit,air) is, Hope IS!

For TRUTH IS! and Miracles do happen.......

HalleluYAH!
Truth is not offensive...You just eff in so much and people try to correct you and it is you that offends...
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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Truth is not offensive...You just eff in so much and people try to correct you and it is you that offends...
Sadly, TRUTH IS offensive unto those souls who have never "received a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved" from their own self("I",ego,id,pride)life! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

Simply sad for you.......

Yet while breath(Spirit,air) is, Hope IS!

For TRUTH IS! and Miracles do happen.......

HalleluYAH!

ABBA Help!

HE DID! and HE does.......

So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way(except it be The Active Faith as revealed in James 1:27)! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:1-4)

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, GOD, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:06 PM
 
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Thankfully i am of "the ignorant and unlearned"!


As for your "blble(hebrew texts inclusive)"
Ironic that your my tells you to study in order to show yourself approved...You've failed...So sad....


I wasn't talking about a translation of the Hebrew but reading the actual Hebrew...Oh, you can't read Hebrew...So sad...
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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It is the way that he is coming accross...You do realize he is disparaging JWs also, don't you?...
He might not know. The JWs call it "the truth" so that could be confusing him. I would guess K7 doesn't know other people claim to have "the truth" as well.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:18 AM
 
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Simply sad for you.......

I feel sorry for you....Some people just can't be helped...
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Old 02-09-2017, 08:01 AM
 
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I feel sorry for you....Some people just can't be helped...
Hebrew is helpful? Seems the Jews proved otherwise!

Needs be a soul seeks to evermore comprehend and receive that which IS of The Original Language, which WAS and IS SPIRIT and TRUTH!

Sadly, those souls who have never "received a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved" from their own self("I",ego,id,pride)life; sadly they have never seen "The LIGHT" that IS "The ONLY TRUE GOD and FATHER of ALL", nor have they seen "The Light" that is The Messiah, He Who was "The Beginning of The Creation of ELOHIM"! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13, John 5:19,30; 8:28-29; 17:3, I John 1:5, Ephesians 4:6, Genesis 1:3, John 8:12,32; 17:5, Revelations 3:14)

Sadder yet, those souls who have not "received a love of The TRUTH" abide in the darkness that is their own vain "imag"inations, for they are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" that are fabricated in their own fleshly mindedness and in the minds other religious souls who but serve time in the prison that is this world! As they evermore serve and believe "the father of lies", he who is "the god of this world" and religion's way in this day and age! (II Thessalonians 2:11-12, John 8:44, II Corinthians 4:4)

So it is those learned, worldly wise, educated, pharisaical and religious souls evermore seek to lead unwary souls along that "broad way to destruction" and perdition! (Matthew 7:13)

Simply sad for them all.......

Yet while breath(Spirit,air) is, Hope IS!

Hope IS there would be those souls who would "receive a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved"! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

Yes! Hope IS Alive for TRUTH IS! and Miracles do happen.......

HalleluYAH!

ABBA Help!

HE DID! and HE does.......

So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way(except it be The Active Faith as revealed in James 1:27)! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:1-4)

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, GOD, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Actually, if he had a god for a father and a human for a mother it would make him a demi-god, which means half-god...Kinda like being half white and half black...



Demi-god= man made words--never mentioned in Gods word as being anything like that.


reality--a god= has godlike qualities. Does not make that one God in any way shape or form--Gods power going through that one makes him godlike.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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Those who have received "a love of The TRUTH" take offense to the "imag"ined latin catholic and christian name of 'jesus'!

For both Joshua of the old covenant and The Messiah were given the same Hebrew birth name!



Wow. Jesus wont appreciate you downing his name.
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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Wow. Jesus wont appreciate you downing his name.
Your "imag"ined catholic latin 'jesus' is the devil's son in bland disguise, and so it is your god has become naught but the colored marks written on a dead tree and bound in fabrication!

TRUTH IS! The "imag"ined name of 'jesus' was first spoken less than 600 years ago!

And the following is for all who yet believe in the "imag"ined christian/catholic latin based name of 'jesus' for such was derived from the catholic latin name 'iesus', which was derived from the pagan greek Ιησούς.

And Ιησούς was the pagan greek word used for The Messiah's GOD given birth name in "the Original manuscripts" prior to their being bastardized by catholicism and then her harlot christian daughters.

And TRUTH IS! Ιησούς was also the greek word used for the name of Joshua in the greek translation of the old covenant from Hebrew manuscripts. That translation was called "the greek septuagint" and such was translated hundreds of years prior to the birth of The Messiah "in the likeness of sinful flesh!

Quite obvious that both Joshua of the old covenant and The Messiah of The NEW Covenant were given the same Hebrew birth name!

And the original KJV version of what this world and/or religion's way call their 'bible' proves such beyond a doubt!

Hundreds of times in the New Testament the Greek name "Ιησούς" is translated as ‘jesus’. But if you have ever read an older King James Bible you might have noticed something odd in Acts 7:45. In his speech to the Jewish council, Stephen refers to the man who led Israel into the earthly Promised Land as "jesus", not Joshua! Why? Is this an error?

Well, yes and no, since the Greek name in verse 45 is "Ιησούς", the same word translated as 'jesus' almost everywhere else. Stephen could not possibly have been referring to anyone else but Joshua who led the Israelis into the earthly Promised Land.

And immediately afterwards, in verse 59, Stephen cried out when being stoned, "Master jesus, receive my spirit!" Again the name is "Ιησούς" in the Greek. Was Stephen crying out to the historical figure Joshua, long dead, to save him, or was he calling upon the Son of GOD, since both names in the Greek manuscripts are "Ιησούς"?

So who does the Greek "Ιησούς" represent, 'jesus' or "Joshua"? Was Stephen, a man so righteous that Heaven opened up at his martyrdom! Was Stephen so overcome by the stress of the moment that he couldn’t tell a long dead forefather from The Messiah, Whom he saw standing at the right hand of GOD!

The pagan latin 'jesus' -OR- The Hebrew "Joshua"?

Modern translations of the Scriptures, and even recent revisions of the King James version, have noticed this contradiction and changed the name in Acts 7:45 to Joshua so that it makes sense, yet the same contradiction is found in Hebrews 4:8 as well! But where did these translators get their authority to change the Scriptures?

Is it through integrity and honesty that "Iesous" is translated as 'jesus', except when it obviously has to mean "Joshua"?

Or are the traditions of men so strong that translators can take liberties with "The Word of TRUTH"?
(James 1:18)

At least the translators of the original King James Version were consistent enough to translate "Iesous" as jesus in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, and also Colossians 4:11, even when it made no sense.

So if the newer translations changed jesus to Joshua in Acts 7:45, Hebrews 4:8, and Colossians 4:11, why didn't they also change jesus to Joshua in all the other Scriptures where they found the pagan greek name "Ιησούς"?

In Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, the name Ιησούς obviously refers to Joshua of the old covenant, and could not refer to anyone else. Shouldn't the pagan greek name "Ιησούς" be translated as Joshua everywhere it is found? In the pagan greek version of the old testament (called the greek septuagint), which was translated prior The Messiah being born ("in the likeness of sinful flesh"), "Ιησούς" was always used to reference Joshua of the old covenant!

Quite evident that the The Name (which in pagan greek is "Ιησούς") of The Messiah, in modern day english, should be Joshua, for obviously Joshua of the old covenant and The Messiah of The NEW were both given the same Hebrew birth name!

Now if it would be tampering with the Scriptures to rightfully change The Messiah's translated name of 'jesus' back to Joshua, would it not also have been tampering with the Scriptures when they changed 'jesus' back to Joshua in Acts 7, Hebrews 4, and Colossians 4? All three refer to the same greek word, "Ιησούς"!

We need to know GOD’s Will about these things, because it doesn't make sense that the translators would change the Scriptures in one place and not the other. Not wishing to disturb tradition, do they hang on to the name of 'jesus' for the sake of selling bibles, or could it be because the pagan latin catholic name for The Messiah is 'iesus'? And the transliteration of that pagan latin word 'iesus' into modern day english is 'jesus'......

Using a pagan latin word when translating from a pagan greek manuscript!

Such breeds "confusion and every evil work" indeed and TRUTH!

And most certainly reveals the perverse catholic and christian "trinity" to be but an "imag"ined three headed pagan god!

Those whose "eyes of understanding has been opened" have REALized that The Messiah's GOD given birth Name in today's english language would be Joshua, in SPIRIT and TRUTH....... (Ephesians 1:18)

Thankfully "The Name above ALL names" IS "Immanuel" for TRUTH IS! The SPIRIT that IS Our FATHER and GOD was IN The Messiah after He was immersed in the river Jordan by John The Baptist!

HalleluYAH!
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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Your "imag"ined catholic latin 'jesus' is the devil's son in bland disguise, and so it is your god has become naught but the colored marks written on a dead tree and bound in fabrication!

TRUTH IS! The "imag"ined name of 'jesus' was first spoken less than 600 years ago!

And the following is for all who yet believe in the "imag"ined christian/catholic latin based name of 'jesus' for such was derived from the catholic latin name 'iesus', which was derived from the pagan greek Ιησούς.

And Ιησούς was the pagan greek word used for The Messiah's GOD given birth name in "the Original manuscripts" prior to their being bastardized by catholicism and then her harlot christian daughters.

And TRUTH IS! Ιησούς was also the greek word used for the name of Joshua in the greek translation of the old covenant from Hebrew manuscripts. That translation was called "the greek septuagint" and such was translated hundreds of years prior to the birth of The Messiah "in the likeness of sinful flesh!

Quite obvious that both Joshua of the old covenant and The Messiah of The NEW Covenant were given the same Hebrew birth name!

And the original KJV version of what this world and/or religion's way call their 'bible' proves such beyond a doubt!

Hundreds of times in the New Testament the Greek name "Ιησούς" is translated as ‘jesus’. But if you have ever read an older King James Bible you might have noticed something odd in Acts 7:45. In his speech to the Jewish council, Stephen refers to the man who led Israel into the earthly Promised Land as "jesus", not Joshua! Why? Is this an error?

Well, yes and no, since the Greek name in verse 45 is "Ιησούς", the same word translated as 'jesus' almost everywhere else. Stephen could not possibly have been referring to anyone else but Joshua who led the Israelis into the earthly Promised Land.

And immediately afterwards, in verse 59, Stephen cried out when being stoned, "Master jesus, receive my spirit!" Again the name is "Ιησούς" in the Greek. Was Stephen crying out to the historical figure Joshua, long dead, to save him, or was he calling upon the Son of GOD, since both names in the Greek manuscripts are "Ιησούς"?

So who does the Greek "Ιησούς" represent, 'jesus' or "Joshua"? Was Stephen, a man so righteous that Heaven opened up at his martyrdom! Was Stephen so overcome by the stress of the moment that he couldn’t tell a long dead forefather from The Messiah, Whom he saw standing at the right hand of GOD!

The pagan latin 'jesus' -OR- The Hebrew "Joshua"?

Modern translations of the Scriptures, and even recent revisions of the King James version, have noticed this contradiction and changed the name in Acts 7:45 to Joshua so that it makes sense, yet the same contradiction is found in Hebrews 4:8 as well! But where did these translators get their authority to change the Scriptures?

Is it through integrity and honesty that "Iesous" is translated as 'jesus', except when it obviously has to mean "Joshua"?

Or are the traditions of men so strong that translators can take liberties with "The Word of TRUTH"?
(James 1:18)

At least the translators of the original King James Version were consistent enough to translate "Iesous" as jesus in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, and also Colossians 4:11, even when it made no sense.

So if the newer translations changed jesus to Joshua in Acts 7:45, Hebrews 4:8, and Colossians 4:11, why didn't they also change jesus to Joshua in all the other Scriptures where they found the pagan greek name "Ιησούς"?

In Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, the name Ιησούς obviously refers to Joshua of the old covenant, and could not refer to anyone else. Shouldn't the pagan greek name "Ιησούς" be translated as Joshua everywhere it is found? In the pagan greek version of the old testament (called the greek septuagint), which was translated prior The Messiah being born ("in the likeness of sinful flesh"), "Ιησούς" was always used to reference Joshua of the old covenant!

Quite evident that the The Name (which in pagan greek is "Ιησούς") of The Messiah, in modern day english, should be Joshua, for obviously Joshua of the old covenant and The Messiah of The NEW were both given the same Hebrew birth name!

Now if it would be tampering with the Scriptures to rightfully change The Messiah's translated name of 'jesus' back to Joshua, would it not also have been tampering with the Scriptures when they changed 'jesus' back to Joshua in Acts 7, Hebrews 4, and Colossians 4? All three refer to the same greek word, "Ιησούς"!

We need to know GOD’s Will about these things, because it doesn't make sense that the translators would change the Scriptures in one place and not the other. Not wishing to disturb tradition, do they hang on to the name of 'jesus' for the sake of selling bibles, or could it be because the pagan latin catholic name for The Messiah is 'iesus'? And the transliteration of that pagan latin word 'iesus' into modern day english is 'jesus'......

Using a pagan latin word when translating from a pagan greek manuscript!

Such breeds "confusion and every evil work" indeed and TRUTH!

And most certainly reveals the perverse catholic and christian "trinity" to be but an "imag"ined three headed pagan god!

Those whose "eyes of understanding has been opened" have REALized that The Messiah's GOD given birth Name in today's english language would be Joshua, in SPIRIT and TRUTH....... (Ephesians 1:18)

Thankfully "The Name above ALL names" IS "Immanuel" for TRUTH IS! The SPIRIT that IS Our FATHER and GOD was IN The Messiah after He was immersed in the river Jordan by John The Baptist!

HalleluYAH!




God wasn't in Jesus after he got baptized--Gods power went through Jesus( Acts 2:22) --not from within. Only the Father has power--The Father was in heaven according to Jesus.
Trinity does not exist--only the Father is the true God.
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