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Old 05-26-2017, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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the all seeing eye of Horus is used
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The Eye of Providence (or the all-seeing eye of God) is a symbol showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light or a glory and usually enclosed by a triangle. It represents the eye of God watching over mankind (or divine providence).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of...Providence.gif
As for the raised arm gesture, I see that you picked that image up from a list of 'top ten Illuminati signs'. I hope you can provide more than conspiracy theories.

:Edit: Oh, and -- FYI -- this is the eye of Horus:

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Old 05-26-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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As for the raised arm gesture, I see that you picked that image up from a list of 'top ten Illuminati signs'. I hope you can provide more than conspiracy theories.

:Edit: Oh, and -- FYI -- this is the eye of Horus:
That raised arm thing also indicates a touchdown in American football and a 3 point shot in basketball. Are those now occult sports?

Incidentally, the Illuminati only existed in Bavaria for about 10 years coinciding with the time of the American Revolution. I don't know why people seem to treat it as a contemporary organization.
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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No, you don't. You THINK you know. That is my point. You know nothing.





Uhh, no, it hasn't. Please, point us to this "proof" you have. No? I didn't think so.




Right, so your God only helps those who believe in him the right way. Everyone else can go suck a lemon, I guess, huh? Why help the poor people around the world when you can watch them suffer and starve, right?


You worship a joke of a God.



Fact of life---Either one worships the true living God=YHVH(Jehovah) or they go through life being owned by satan. Why should God help those who refuse to listen to him? That was the issue raised against him in Eden by satan. If we knew both sides ourselves we could choose ourself the best path for our life. So God let it be proved--if he did all the things everybody needed or wanted--nothing would be proved. It is almost done--You are standing in opposition.
Its not God that's the joke==your false understanding and reasoning is.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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As for the raised arm gesture, I see that you picked that image up from a list of 'top ten Illuminati signs'. I hope you can provide more than conspiracy theories.

:Edit: Oh, and -- FYI -- this is the eye of Horus:
there is no eye of providence or all seeing eye of God in the bible. only occult groups use those terms



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That raised arm thing also indicates a touchdown in American football and a 3 point shot in basketball. Are those now occult sports?

Incidentally, the Illuminati only existed in Bavaria for about 10 years coinciding with the time of the American Revolution. I don't know why people seem to treat it as a contemporary organization.

The Illuminati was not completely shut down. some members were arrested by the Bavarian police. many others fled Bavaria to other parts of Europe.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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there is no eye of providence or all seeing eye of God in the bible. only occult groups use those terms
Prove it. The Christian God is widely acknowledged to be omniscient, which is -- by definition -- all-seeing. Yes, I'm being pedantic, but there are a lot of things in the Bible that are paraphrased or not explicitly stated. In fact, I can quote several verses that refer to God's all-seeing nature without ever using the word 'omniscient'.

By the way:

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In Renaissance European iconography the eye surrounded by a triangle was an explicit image of the Christian Trinity
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of...#Religious_use

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A rare Renaissance example of it appears above Christ's head in the Supper of Emmaus painted for the Carthusians in 1525.
-- Eye of God (Eye of Providence) - ReligionFacts


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The Illuminati was not completely shut down. some members were arrested by the Bavarian police. many others fled Bavaria to other parts of Europe.
What point are you trying to make?
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Old 05-27-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Do not get an education or plan for your future as we are living in the last seconds of the last days brothers and sisters. Devote all your time to the Lord via The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. If you choose not to play along we will lovingly discipline you by a total shun and then Jehovah will destroy you very soon.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:44 PM
 
Location: The backwoods of Pennsylvania ... unfortunately.
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Fact of life---Either one worships the true living God=YHVH(Jehovah) or they go through life being owned by satan.
Proof? Evidence? Statistics? Pie chart? Line graph? Bar graph? Journal article? PowerPoint presentation? Slide show? Ven diagram? Equations? Report? Synopsis? Visual aids? Data analysis? Diagnostics check? A few loose papers in a manila folder? Chicken bones? Tea leaves? Tarot card reading? Ouija board consultation? Something ... anything ... to back up your so-called "fact of life?"

Yeah, I didn't think so.

The fact that people still believe in demons controlling people simply because we didn't join one particular cult -- especially one that just sprang into existence in the last 200 years -- is patently ridiculous.

Jesus: "So, are we going to tell these sniveling sinning humans the Truth yet?"

Living God YHVH: "Nope. Let them sweat it for awhile. We have to wait until everyone has either become a Catholic or a Protestant. By then, hardly anyone will fall for this "Jehovah's Witness" stuff and most of them will burn! Muahahahahaha!"

Jesus: "Excellent plan, My Lord and Father, Most Omnipotent On High. When do you plan on letting everyone in on the joke?"

Living God YHVH: "Hmm, I was thinking around the 1870's or so. By then, nearly everyone will be hopelessly entwined in the false Christian denominations. Hardly anyone will believe the real Truth that way we can burn more people. Muahahaha!"

Jesus: "One thing I have to ask: How long do we have to stay here on the star Alcyone? I mean, we're in a brand new star cluster with dozens of highly radio active O-type stars. It's damn hot. If not for the blue light of the stars, I'd think we're in Hell right now!"

Living God YHVH: "Well, a few humans somehow managed to find out that I rule from Alcyone. Not sure how they figured that one out but they did. I think Gabriel let the cat out of the bag. Anyhow, we won't stay here much longer now that the JW's are on to us. I'm thinking we can move to ... Betelgeuse."

Jesus: "No."

Living God YHVH: "Arcturus?"

Jesus: "No."

Living God YHVH: "Regulus?"

Jesus: "Never."

Living God YHVH: "Spica?"

Jesus: "C'mon YHVH, Oh Most Tricky and Benevolant Master, can't we rule from a nice comfortable planet like, say, Kolob?"

Living God YHVH: "That's for the Mormons, you twit!"

Jesus: "Oh right, I forgot."

Living God YHVH: "Muahahahaha!"

Jesus: *facepalm* "That's it, I'm disbelieving in myself."

Living God YHVH: "I'll let Satan know you're coming. Muahahahaha!"

Jesus: "For the love of yourself, stop laughing like that!"

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Why should God help those who refuse to listen to him?
Uhm ... because it's the right thing to do? This is why so many religions and the gods they worship end up morally bankrupt. It's a good thing I don't act like your God because if I saw that you needed help, I would do my best to offer it. I wouldn't, say, passively watch your child dying of cancer while rubbing my chin thinking, "Hmm, what has Kjw47 done for ME lately? Harumph! In fact I remember when Kjw47 defied me a few days ago. Yep, you're not getting any help from me!"

No, true morality is independent of the actions of others. Whether you are moral or immoral depends on YOUR actions and no one deserves to be treated immorally. Apparently that's something your god missed when he went to god school. Maybe he moved around too much -- like going from Alcyone to Betelgeuse, etc. (Yeah, the early JW's actually believed God ruled from the star Alcyone in the Pleiades star cluster *snicker*).

Why would I even want to worship and venerate a God who would simply disregard the pain of his own creation out of some ego trip? "That guy didn't listen to me. Bah! How dare he tweak my ego like that?! No help for him!" Next thing you know, God will be shoving the Montenegran prime minister aside just so he can be in the front. (Complete with adjusting his suit, puffing out his chest, and adopting a smug expression.)

Sorry, but I just can't believe that people find that acceptable. Any God I worship would be bigger than that.

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That was the issue raised against him in Eden by satan. If we knew both sides ourselves we could choose ourself the best path for our life. So God let it be proved--if he did all the things everybody needed or wanted--nothing would be proved.
Omniscient gods do not need anything proven to them. That's a bit like a computer programmer writing thousands of lines of code and then, once done, having no idea what the program is going to do -- and so has to test it billions of times to see what it does. (I don't mean testing for bugs and such as programmers do -- I mean literally having *no* idea what the program does.)

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Its not God that's the joke==your false understanding and reasoning is.
I always thought the real joke was how so many people can still believe in the JW religion despite the many dozens of times they've issued false prophecies and held bizarre, even laughable beliefs, like God ruling from Alcyone.

Last edited by Shirina; 05-27-2017 at 08:01 PM.. Reason: Satan deleted my original post and made me write this one. Honest! It's not my fault! *slaps Satan's hands away*
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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I know God does not lie. The bible has been proven truth. Those suffering without, fail to listen to Jesus. He promised his Father would provide--sustenance, covering, spirituality) if one applied Matt 6:33--- the trinity charities wont even teach this to the needy along with the temp fix--that is the problem--they fail both Jesus and the needy.
Are you that daft to think a god could not make you believe it couldn't lie?? Seriously think about that.
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I know God does not lie.
The word you are thinking of is 'believe' not 'know'.

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The bible has been proven truth.
No. It's actually been proven to be not much more than fable, fiction and fraud.

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Those suffering without, fail to listen to Jesus. He promised his Father would provide--sustenance, covering, spirituality) if one applied Matt 6:33---
so once again. When are you going to sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor?
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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there is no eye of providence or all seeing eye of God in the bible. only occult groups use those terms


The Illuminati was not completely shut down. some members were arrested by the Bavarian police. many others fled Bavaria to other parts of Europe.
Since the all-seeing eye is on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, and only occult groups use those terms, the it follows logically that the government of the United States is an occult organization.

I'm not buying it.


I've not seen anything credible about the Illuminati surviving much after 1791.
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