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Old 11-18-2016, 02:05 AM
 
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Given you not only have not a shred of evidence there even is a god, and run away every time it is asked of you.... how do you go about ascertaining what utterances are from this gods mouth and what ones are fabricated or false?

Surely given your utter and complete failure to support the existence of this god in any way AT ALL..... then any attempts to attributes words to it's person is nothing more than guess work. At best. And a complete bias driven totalitarian canard at worst.
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Old 11-18-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Given you not only have not a shred of evidence there even is a god, and run away every time it is asked of you.... how do you go about ascertaining what utterances are from this gods mouth and what ones are fabricated or false?

Surely given your utter and complete failure to support the existence of this god in any way AT ALL..... then any attempts to attributes words to it's person is nothing more than guess work. At best. And a complete bias driven totalitarian canard at worst.





God reveals himself to all with good hearts.
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Old 11-18-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Given you not only have not a shred of evidence there even is a god, and run away every time it is asked of you.... how do you go about ascertaining what utterances are from this gods mouth and what ones are fabricated or false?
Surely given your utter and complete failure to support the existence of this god in any way AT ALL..... then any attempts to attributes words to it's person is nothing more than guess work. At best. And a complete bias driven totalitarian canard at worst.

??? - Christians believe the Bible is God's inspired Word - Psalm 119:105; 2 Timothy 3:16-17

What is false or fabricated about Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 ?
Never before in history has the good news message reached the world to the grand international global scale as it is being done today. Even modern technology has made possible rapid Bible translation so that people all over the Earth, even in remote areas, can have Scripture in their own language or mother tongue. We are at the ' final phase, so to speak, of that global proclamation.

The United Nations today sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world. With backing the U.N. can be strengthened to become God's 'arm of the law', so to speak, to go against the world's troublesome religions.

We are also nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1st Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.- Matthew 25:31-33,37
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Old 11-18-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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??? - Christians believe the Bible is God's inspired Word - Psalm 119:105; 2 Timothy 3:16-17

What is false or fabricated about Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 ?
Scripture is not evidence for the existence of god. It is an unsubstantiated assertion that there is a god.

That Christians believe something to be true does not make it true.
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Never before in history has the good news message reached the world to the grand international global scale as it is being done today. Even modern technology has made possible rapid Bible translation so that people all over the Earth, even in remote areas, can have Scripture in their own language or mother tongue. We are at the ' final phase, so to speak, of that global proclamation.
How is this helpful to the millions of people throughout history who have not had the scripture in their own language? By the lights of many Christians, those people died in their sins and went to hell.

I have never understood why the End of Days awaits some arbitrary event like the last indigenous tribe getting its own translation of the Bible, when it only speaks to the proclamation of the evangel in the current moment. It's not like god in his mercy is waiting for everyone to hear the good news; countless millions have already died without it, far more than would be saved in the present day by having it.
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The United Nations today sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world. With backing the U.N. can be strengthened to become God's 'arm of the law', so to speak, to go against the world's troublesome religions.
That would doubtless be all the "other" religions. How convenient for you.
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We are also nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1st Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.- Matthew 25:31-33,37
No one seriously believes the world is a serene place for anyone except perhaps the economic elites, and even that is questionable these days.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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it's a mind control cult
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Old 11-19-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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it's a mind control cult



I have heard those words from apostates. Never from a Jw --Why do you think that is? This is fact---Every real JW uses their very own personal free will to listen to the JW teachers--Why?? Because Jesus is the head of the congregation-Ephesians 5:23) and according to Luke 10:16--if one rejects the real teachers of Jesus its the same as rejecting God and Jesus. And vica versa.
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Old 11-19-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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I have heard those words from apostates. Never from a Jw --Why do you think that is?
Oh, don't be silly. By definition the members of a mind control cult will not dare to think that they are in a mind control cult. Because such a notion is forbidden.

In any case you're conveniently overlooking that people leave the JWs all the time and quite uniformly describe it as a liberating experience.

But don't feel bad --- people like me regard all religious faiths as, to varying degrees, sources of intellectual bondage and control. And I regard my exit from my particular branch of Christianity as a liberation, too.
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Old 11-20-2016, 04:51 AM
 
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I think they are annoying and you have to threaten them with the police to go away.....
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Old 11-20-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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Default what do you think of Jehovah Witnesses?

I am saddened that they live in such an awful view of the world and our God. But I believe the members are sincere. I am not so sanguine about their leaders and so-called teachers.
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Old 11-20-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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Scripture is not evidence for the existence of god. It is an unsubstantiated assertion that there is a god.
That Christians believe something to be true does not make it true.
How is this helpful to the millions of people throughout history who have not had the scripture in their own language? By the lights of many Christians, those people died in their sins and went to hell.
I have never understood why the End of Days awaits some arbitrary event like the last indigenous tribe getting its own translation of the Bible, when it only speaks to the proclamation of the evangel in the current moment. It's not like god in his mercy is waiting for everyone to hear the good news; countless millions have already died without it, far more than would be saved in the present day by having it.
That would doubtless be all the "other" religions. How convenient for you.
No one seriously believes the world is a serene place for anyone except perhaps the economic elites, and even that is questionable these days.
Right, God is Not waiting for everyone to hear the good news message. If you notice Matthew 24:14 mentions as a witness to all earth's nations, Not all of earth's individuals. - Acts 1:8

Right, countless millions already dead. According to 1st John 1:7 Jesus' ransom covers the dead - Matthew 20:28. See also Romans 6:7
So, unless committing the unforgivable sin - Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6, they will have a resurrection - Rev. 1:18

Right, all those people died and went to hell. Note: Not some 'religious-myth hell' being taught as Scripture, but the Bible's hell which is 'mankind's grave' for the sleeping dead until Resurrection Day ( Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth for a thousand years ). That is why Acts 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection....

Jesus was well educated in the old Hebrew Scriptures which teach 'sleep' (Not pain) in death:
- Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5
That is why Jesus also taught unconscious sleep in death -> John 11:11-14.
Corrupted religious leaders began mixing with Greek theories or philosophies as being Scripture.
They teach a permanent burning hell fire, whereas the Bible's hell/ grave is temporary.

Because we are at the ' final phase ' of Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 helps show we are at the end days of badness on Earth before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.
Jesus, as righteous judge, - Matthew 25:31-33,37 - will decide who are the figurative humble ' sheep ' or haughty ' goats'.
Those judged by Jesus as humble sheep ( Matthew 5:5 ) will inherit the Earth. They can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth, right into the start of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership on Earth begins.
Then, ALL of earth's nations will be blessed with the benefit of healing - Revelation 22:2; Isaiah 25:8; 1st Cor. 15:26
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