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Old 11-20-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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God reveals himself to all with good hearts.
....and wouldn't good hearts want to meet the conditions of Zephaniah 2:3 ?
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:15 AM
 
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God reveals himself to all with good hearts.
That is however, as usual with you, a complete non-answer.

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??? - Christians believe the Bible is God's inspired Word
A belief that does not in any way answer what I asked in my post.

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Never before in history has the good news message reached the world to the grand international global scale as it is being done today.
Statistically it is not clear what you mean here, or what relevance it has to what I wrote. For example there are simply much more people today than there were 1000 years ago. So of course there will be more instances of the belief. Another example is the same thing you just said could equally validly by said by a Muslim about their religion.

So it is not clear what your point is or what you think it has to do with my post. In fact I genuinely suspect you had a record to play, and did not really care which post you hit REPLY on to play it.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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I am saddened that they live in such an awful view of the world and our God. But I believe the members are sincere. I am not so sanguine about their leaders and so-called teachers.



This is Gods view of the world today-2Timothy 3---- Those who see the world like this have Gods view--Those who do not are fooling themselves. Or how about these practices( 1Cor 6:9-11, Gal 5:19-21) that the majority on earth are doing daily, yet fail to see that God says--they will not enter his kingdom? Instead believe the words of a supposed spiritual teacher who tells them the opposite.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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I have heard those words from apostates. Never from a Jw --Why do you think that is? This is fact---Every real JW uses their very own personal free will to listen to the JW teachers--Why?? Because Jesus is the head of the congregation-Ephesians 5:23) and according to Luke 10:16--if one rejects the real teachers of Jesus its the same as rejecting God and Jesus. And vica versa.

can you explain why JWs have the highest turnover of any religion?


JWs don't have any free will they can't vote, they can't get blood transfusion, have freedom of association severely restricted under penalty of shunning and eternal punishments?

JW does not equate to God. JWs don't have a monopoly on God. saying people rejecting God by rejecting JWs is cultic mind control
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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can you explain why JWs have the highest turnover of any religion?


JWs don't have any free will they can't vote, they can't get blood transfusion, have freedom of association severely restricted under penalty of shunning and eternal punishments?

JW does not equate to God. JWs don't have a monopoly on God. saying people rejecting God by rejecting JWs is cultic mind control



Jesus started one single religion( 1Cor 1:10)--in the OT there was one single religion that had God. Its all that is needed to be unified in truth.
Most cannot cut it in this satan ruled world. Ones own heart easily reasons falsely-Jer 17:9--2Cor 4:4)
Jesus taught to be no part of this world, so then why would one vote? Here is what is being voted for-2Pet 2:19)
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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....and wouldn't good hearts want to meet the conditions of Zephaniah 2:3 ?

Unfortunately for the people of this world, They took Gods personal name out of the ot--so when it says GOD instead--- they don't have a clue as to what reality is, or who the true living God is, because they do not bother to check the facts of reality---- From Moses on up to this very day--the true servants( Israel-OT) served a single being God named YHWH(Jehovah)--the God taught, served and worshipped by, David, Daniel, Job, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, Paul and Jesus while he attended the synagogues and temples his first 30 years on earth. Jesus even taught that God( John 20:17, Rev 3:12) but FEW will believe Jesus.
The OT is clear--God does not change.


They wont believe him, because satans #1 tool--- from generation to generation, from parent to child-- false god worship and practices straight off the table of demons are handed down--this is really a sad reality---Open your eyes world.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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to tell the truth, I don't even know what Joehoover saw.
Did he ever get cross examined?
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Jesus started one single religion
Jesuus did NOT start ANY religion. He came to correct the abject barbarism, ignorance and lack of agape love among our brutal ancestors with their absurd religious beliefs. He came to reveal the TRUE NATURE of God to barbarians and paid the price of their ignorance (sins) by scourging and crucifixion. But His love for us all, including His brutal torturers and murderers, unambiguously revealed the true nature of God toward us all. He smote no one and said God IS agape love so He is not counting our sins (ignorance, missing the mark) against us. Upon His death, Christ's Holy Spirit (human consciousness) was "born again" as Spirit. His Holy Spirit is available to us all within our consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts." Worldly religion with its rules and condemnations are anathema to God. He just wants us to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't, period.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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Jesus started one single religion( 1Cor 1:10)--in the OT there was one single religion that had God. Its all that is needed to be unified in truth.
Most cannot cut it in this satan ruled world. Ones own heart easily reasons falsely-Jer 17:9--2Cor 4:4)
Jesus taught to be no part of this world, so then why would one vote? Here is what is being voted for-2Pet 2:19)




and no the JW was not started by God it was started by Charles Taze Russell originally they called themselves Bible Students before changing tier names to Jehovah's Witnesse. Charles was part of the millerite movement that produce the seventh day adventist church. and like many other american based cults the millerites had roots in the stone campbell Restorationist movement in the 1800s.


no try and answer my questions why JW impose restictions under threats of shunning and eternal punishment WITHOUT quoting the bible
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Jesuus did NOT start ANY religion. He came to correct the abject barbarism, ignorance and lack of agape love among our brutal ancestors with their absurd religious beliefs. He came to reveal the TRUE NATURE of God to barbarians and paid the price of their ignorance (sins) by scourging and crucifixion. But His love for us all, including His brutal torturers and murderers, unambiguously revealed the true nature of God toward us all. He smote no one and said God IS agape love so He is not counting our sins (ignorance, missing the mark) against us. Upon His death, Christ's Holy Spirit (human consciousness) was "born again" as Spirit. His Holy Spirit is available to us all within our consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts." Worldly religion with its rules and condemnations are anathema to God. He just wants us to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't, period.



The Pharisees saw a new religion-Acts 24:5-- Called it -- a spearhead of the sect of the Nazarene-- Plus Jesus speaks to 7 congregations( church) in Revelation---Israelites do not attend a church congregation--they attend synagogues and temples.
You are insane to believe our sins are not being held against us. If they weren't no one ever needs to die and pay the wages of sin then, oh but they do. As well the bible is clear--the righteous wash their robes-WHITE. And ONLY the righteous will enter Gods kingdom. The rest who were taught by your teachers will hear these words from Jesus at judgement--Matt 7:21-23--- they do not want to hear those words--a worker of iniquity = a practice of sin( willfull).
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