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Old 12-30-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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You guys are false prophets. A guy named Charles Taze invented the religion, not Jesus. Jesus was a Jew.

The Jewish have been cut off of being Gods chosen-Matt 23:37-39-- they outright refuse to do 39 for over 1900 years.
Har-mageddon is a real prophecy, made by God.--they erred by trying to put a date on it--a false prophecy is a prophecy not made by God. You listened to bigoted apostate hearts--not wise.
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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So says those who do not know God or his son.
The same ones who teach eternal hellfire when this is the reality God set before all = Deut 30:19= life or death----nothing more.
The blind guides who teach---Jesus is God--yet the Facts of the bible prove the opposite. Like this fact---- God is king of eternity-- Jesus had to be appointed king of Gods kingdom( Dan 7:13-15)-- If Jesus were God he already would be king, and no one could appoint him.
But then Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject hi mself forever= 1Cor 15:24-28


The facts are with the JW teachers.
no it is you and your fellow JWs don't know Jesus and God. JW teachers are cult leaders
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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Rev 1:1--a revelation to Jesus which God gave to him--see that--2 beings there, 1 is God,one is Jesus= not God. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation--created direct first and last, then all other things created through him, that makes him--Gods master worker of Prov 8--see vs 22--The being whocame to earth and was named Jesus as a mortal is speaking prov 8--notice vs 22--produced( created) me as the beginning( creation) of your way. Michael is Jesus. Michael is the one who came to earth and was named Jesus--there was no Jesus in the OT. Yet he was 2nd in command always--It is Michael who stood up for the sons of Daniel( Israel)Dan 12:1--


The archangel is better than the other angels. He is leader of them. As well was a prince, but upon his successful completion of his time on earth sometime( rev 6) after his ascention, he was crowned king. Since it is 100% truth, God is king of eternity, Jesus would already be king if he were God, but Jesus had to be appointed king. By the one he taught was greater than him--his God and Father.

Daniel never said Michael was Jesus and you contradict yourself when you said there was no Jesus in the OT and then claim that Michael was Jesus pointing to Daniel verses that said no such thing. you can't have it both ways. you can't claim that Jesus was not in the OT and then claiming that Michael who was in the OT is Jesus.

proof once again you and your cult don't know jack about Jesus
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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Daniel never said Michael was Jesus and you contradict yourself when you said there was no Jesus in the OT and then claim that Michael was Jesus pointing to Daniel verses that said no such thing. you can't have it both ways. you can't claim that Jesus was not in the OT and then claiming that Michael who was in the OT is Jesus.

proof once again you and your cult don't know jack about Jesus



Show me the name Jesus in the OT--YOU cant--But he is there. Liars say it was YHWH who came to earth, but there is 0 chance of that. It was Michael who stood up--Dan 12:1--he spoke at prov 8
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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Show me the name Jesus in the OT--YOU cant--But he is there. Liars say it was YHWH who came to earth, but there is 0 chance of that. It was Michael who stood up--Dan 12:1--he spoke at prov 8
I never said Jesus was the OT you don't put words in my mouth. you claim that Michael the archangel was Jesus when the bible never said such a blasphemy thing and you contradict yourself by saying he was never in the OT.

Michael the archangel NEVER spoken or mentioned in Proverbs 8


Daniel 21:1 identify Michael the archangel who is the protector of Israel.
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7eParT_S6s
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:18 AM
 
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so why your JWs always run the courts when they won't get their own way? why are they/were involved with the UN?

You may not want to read opinions that are contrary to the negative opinions you have about JWs (I could be wrong) but this is also for those who may be interested in learning more than internet chatter. From a website that is in no way related to JWs...

Why Jehovah’s Witnesses’ victory is a win for all of us | First Amendment Center

The UN issue is really a non issue:


Here's how the UN has considered NGOs (Non Government Organization that is a non profit organization)..."association of NGOs with the DPI does NOT CONSTITUTE THEIR INCORPORATION INTO THE UNITED NATIONS SYSTEM" (Cf. ECOSOC Resolution 1296; Part II,12.)

When JWs agreed to become an NGO in 1991 there wasn't anything in the UN registration documents that conflicted with the practices and beliefs of the JWs. In fact the UN documents show NGOs are NOT part of the UN, they don't have to agree with the UN and can criticize the UN. Being an NGO does not entitle an NGO to any kind of privileges.

So why become an NGO in the first place? At that time information was not as readily available as it is today from a wide variety of sources and the UN libraries contained useful information for research involving economic, social, scientific, cultural subjects. Thus this information was useful when publishing articles.

Why not continue as an NGO? Years later the criteria of the NGO changed making continued participation as an NGO by the Watchtower Tract Society incompatible with stated beliefs.

The Bible does not prohibit Christians from use of the legal system or resources offered by governmental authorities or organizations to defend and protect their cause. On the contrary, for example, the apostle Paul made use of the courts and his Roman citizenship to defend himself and the proselytizing and teaching activities.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:09 AM
 
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I never said Jesus was the OT you don't put words in my mouth. you claim that Michael the archangel was Jesus when the bible never said such a blasphemy thing and you contradict yourself by saying he was never in the OT.

Michael the archangel NEVER spoken or mentioned in Proverbs 8


Daniel 21:1 identify Michael the archangel who is the protector of Israel.



Anyone that reads prov 8 knows 100% it is surely the being who became Jesus as a mortal. And that being is not God speaking.


Show me the name Jesus in the ot--you cannot. So who ever came was not named Jesus prior to his coming as a mortal.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:13 AM
 
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Like this 100% guarantee biblical truth---John 20:17, Rev 3:12--2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28---1Peter 1:3--Rev 1:6-- Jesus and 3 of his--REAL-- teachers, all 100% in agreement---Jesus has a God like we do--his Father.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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Anyone that reads prov 8 knows 100% it is surely the being who became Jesus as a mortal. And that being is not God speaking.


Show me the name Jesus in the ot--you cannot. So who ever came was not named Jesus prior to his coming as a mortal.
again your contradicting yourself claiming Jesus is not in the OT and claiming a being in Proverbs became Jesus

Proverbs 8 is NOT about Michael nor Jesus it is the Author of Proverbs speaking about God

i like the fact that you ignore my posts pointing out your contradictions claiming Michael is Jesus and claiming Jesus is not in the OT



here is you claiming Michael is Jesus

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Bible truth shows clearly--Michael is Jesus. The blind teachers cannot see it.

what do you think of Jehovah Witnesses?
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