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Old 03-01-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Boise
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To me, the Adam & Eve myth, along with the 'curses' of womanhood, represent a knee-jerk reaction to a world where goddess worship/the Divine Feminine had been commonplace.

In short, it reeks of insecurity on the part of men.

I wonder - just how many of the world's paternalistic faiths also support polygamy for males?
These are much like my own thoughts on the subject. I have always thought that the biblical portrayal of women and especially where their "place" is supposed to be, is just a little too convenient for the gigantic bubble-like egos of the manly-man type
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I do take Genesis literally. I am a Christian. This is what I believe.
I don't think there's a greater piece of literature for making one consider atheism than taking the Old Testament of the Bible literally.

No atheist philosophers or book writers could do as good of a job as the writers of the Old Testament did.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Tightwad, do you take Genesis literally?
On my yes! I take the whole of the Bible and it's teachings VERY seriously and why wouldn't I?

Don't you??
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:42 AM
 
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On my yes! I take the whole of the Bible and it's teachings VERY seriously and why wouldn't I?

Don't you??
So what do you know about Sophia (Khokhmah in Hebrew) and the OT?
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Not.here
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On my yes! I take the whole of the Bible and it's teachings VERY seriously and why wouldn't I?

Don't you??

I think societies have always liked their creation stories and other religious stories. People have turned to them when seeking to fulfill emotional needs.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: The space that I'm occupying
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I don't think it's smart to question God's word & intent.........do you?
Actually, it is ok to debate with God and to get into debates with other people, because in the end, the Truth will be left standing. If you're wrong, then ok, you fall down and see the Truth, but if you're left standing, then you were beside the Truth the whole time.
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Old 03-03-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Do you think the punishment fits the crime for what she did? Does it show a lot of mercy and compassion, just because she and her mate ate a piece of fruit they weren't supposed to and gained some new insights?
Suppose the story in Genesis 3 is an explanation for women giving birth to children based on, how shall I put it, an absence of scientific knowledge. Does that make you feel better?
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: on a green & blue ball called earth
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In Genesis 3-16, God gets really upset with Eve for eating the fruit and making Adam also take a bite, and he:

1. makes her (and all that follow her) have very painful childbirths.

2. proclaims that her husband shall rule over her. We know how some religions that interpret this literally use it to restrict women.

Do you think the punishment fits the crime for what she did? Does it show a lot of mercy and compassion, just because she and her mate ate a piece of fruit they weren't supposed to and gained some new insights? [/quote]

Do I think the punishment fits the crime? No, because it was obvious that mercy and compassion was there, after all he is "God" right? I shutter at the thought of what he could have done just merely THINKING about it. Besides since they wanted to lie down on the job, then they could both lie down in death spiritually, lie down in death in time physically, and she in pain each time she delivers.

what happened to Adam and Eve in the spirit is revealed to us by discovering a testimony of the like, BUT find it's results in the physical/natural so that we can better understand what all happened. Remember what happened to them in the spirit is what happened to the other couple in the natural.

it's here in Acts, and in this testimony we see what happened to Adam and Eve by see it happen to this couple in the flesh. remember the entire bible testifies of itself. to better help us understand if the woman got it tough, or if it had been the husband would it had been just as tough means we need to look right into the bible, and find a husband who leads his wife to do wrong, and the SEE what happens there. Now lets look.

Acts 5

but a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, [the husband decided to keep some of the money and the wife is in on it, but they were suppose to give what they kept back as well.]

and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles feet. but Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and keep back part of the price of the land? ...why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou has not lied unto men, but unto God. and Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost...And it was about the space of 3hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. and Peter answered unto her, tell whether ye sold the land for so much? and she said, Yeah for so much.

then Peter said unt her, who is it that ye have agreed together to temp the Spirit of the Lord? behold the feet of them which have buried they husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost; and teh men came in and found her dead and carrying her forth buried her by her husband.

here we have the same situation BUT displayed in the natural so that we can be clear on how serious it is to sin against "God."

I think it could have been sooo much more worse considering the powers of the judge in charge.

{what's happening with my puter? it's printing stuff I'm not done with?}hmmmm sorry if this is a repeat.

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Old 03-03-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It's a myth for crying out loud!

Long before Christianity reared it's (often) ugly head, Goddess worship was practiced by a large segment of societies. The story of Adam and Eve is just one more story in a sea of "biblical" stories invented by men designed to keep women subjugated and submissive as we pay for our sin in the garden for all of eternity.

I'm not buying.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Boise
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I don't think it's smart to question God's word & intent.........do you?
I don't think it's smart to invest my life into something without asking some questions. Besides god wouldn't have given us the capacity to question if he didn't want us doing it.
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