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Old 03-16-2010, 05:19 AM
 
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so God is throwing us into a playground full of murderers, rapists child molesters and so on just for his enjoyment

when we get to the spirit world, which is not the spiritual world,the spirit world is where the ghost live but the spiritual world is the kingdom of God its actually an ever expanding universe also known as the spiritual sky,but when we get to the spirit world ill meet up with ye and we'll see,the only problem is is that when you reincarnate you wont remember anything previous from that birth unless God wants you to remember b ye his causless mercy.
NO. GOD DID NOT CREATE US TO BE THAT WAY. Because of the fall of our first parents, WE BECAME EVIL MURDERS. We weren't created to be like that.
Now, to get out of this mess, WE MUST ACQUIRE THE SUBSTANCE OF GOD. IN NO OTHER WAY CAN WE GET RID OF SIN AND THE INCLINATION TO SIN. DIVINE LOVE IS THE KEY TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. NOTHING ELSE GETS YOU THERE.

THE WORLD AS WE SEE IT IS OUR CREATION, NOT GOD'S. God threw us on this planet with Love. We gave away that love so that we could practice sin. God will wait for us to become Love again.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:37 AM
 
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NO. GOD DID NOT CREATE US TO BE THAT WAY. Because of the fall of our first parents, WE BECAME EVIL MURDERS. We weren't created to be like that.
Now, to get out of this mess, WE MUST ACQUIRE THE SUBSTANCE OF GOD. IN NO OTHER WAY CAN WE GET RID OF SIN AND THE INCLINATION TO SIN. DIVINE LOVE IS THE KEY TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. NOTHING ELSE GETS YOU THERE.

THE WORLD AS WE SEE IT IS OUR CREATION, NOT GOD'S. God threw us on this planet with Love. We gave away that love so that we could practice sin. God will wait for us to become Love again.
if you want to know how to attain divine love then read Bhagavad Gita

it would appear that most people are suffering for no reason at all,do you not think that maybe this suffering is caused bye their own actions and not because of adam and eve,

how can you blame the worlds sin on two people that might not even exist-everyone is responsible for their own actions-

God puts us here alright but their are so many different qualitys of life- all the way from a single cell organism to us humans,why does one deserve better than the other?

you said that God will wait for us to become love again but youve also said that certain souls will be destroyed,wheres the justice in that since its not even our faults that we sin,its adam and eves,

youve also said that we choose to come here but whom would take that choice if their was a possibility to become destroyed

youve also said that we came from the spiritual world straight away to live here then we go straight back,again this is like God playing with an ant farm-for his enjoyment we all suffer.God wants us to experience this life for him you said-.........God dos'nt want anybody suffering,He could end all suffering right now if He wanted,but because we accumulate karma we have to live out certain lives, some people are worse than others and deserve everything thats coming.

im really sorry if im not getting where your coming from i can see that you are a really nice person and i like the way to like to speak of divine love,but there are too many holes and condradictions in your philosophy for me to take it on,if you read Bhagavad Gita you will understand how solid the truth is-you will see how pure it is and the same knowledge that was spoken 5000 years ago still can be put into practice today,the truth does'nt change
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:54 PM
 
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read Bhagavad Gita then suss it out yourself it was spoken 5000 years ago
I asked if there was any evidence that you could present to us that would confirm your belief. Now I can do this with the Bible, because it contains hundreds of prophecies that confirms who Jesus Christ is. And accurately fortells future events. Yet, what evidence is to be found in the Bhagavad Gita that would confirm it contains such advanced knowledge? A knowledge, that could only come from God. Because only the real God, knows the future.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:23 AM
 
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How can you know that the bible accurately predicts future events? The future hasn't arrived yet, and so far not a single biblical prediction has been fulfilled.
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:10 AM
 
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How can you know that the bible accurately predicts future events? The future hasn't arrived yet, and so far not a single biblical prediction has been fulfilled.
According to the Bible, the Jewish people would one day return from a worldwide exile. They would return to the land of Israel. They would retake back their city of Jerusalem. And at the sametime, we would see a sealed East Gate, that was still attached to an even older East Gate that would lead to the temple mount. And in this sametime, the people of Israel would be demanding that their third temple be rebuilt. Also, these prophecies would only occur in a time, when nations to the East of Israel would be able to field an army of 200 million, if the need arises.

64% of Israelis want Temple rebuilt
64% of Israelis want Temple rebuilt

Muslim leader wants Temple rebuilt
Muslim leader wants Temple rebuilt

Jerusalems sealed East Gate
http://www.biblewalks.com/Photos29/GoldenGate1s.jpg


The furture arrived when Jesus Christ first fulfilled more then three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament 2,000 years ago. Israels existance today, has just added to the number of fulfilled prophecies.
To suggest that not a single prophecy has been fulfilled, requires you to turn a blind eye to some of our most obvious history.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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I asked if there was any evidence that you could present to us that would confirm your belief. Now I can do this with the Bible, because it contains hundreds of prophecies that confirms who Jesus Christ is. And accurately fortells future events. Yet, what evidence is to be found in the Bhagavad Gita that would confirm it contains such advanced knowledge? A knowledge, that could only come from God. Because only the real God, knows the future.
so if God knows the futeure,which He does,then why is He sending people here knowing that they will not become christiand and then end up in eternal hell

the veda literatures have also predicted the birth of many incarnations of God
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:10 AM
 
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so if God knows the futeure,which He does,then why is He sending people here knowing that they will not become christiand and then end up in eternal hell

the veda literatures have also predicted the birth of many incarnations of God



Gods knowledge does not place limits on man's ability to accept Him. Man being evil, makes his own choices. And veda literatures may of predicted the birth of some. Yet not one of those incarnations, will grant man eternal life. Only God's blood sacrifice found in the person of Jesus Christ. Can do that.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:02 AM
 
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Gods knowledge does not place limits on man's ability to accept Him. Man being evil, makes his own choices. And veda literatures may of predicted the birth of some. Yet not one of those incarnations, will grant man eternal life. Only God's blood sacrifice found in the person of Jesus Christ. Can do that.
you only know the bible therefore your knowledge is limited,not all men are evil and if you think that the All Loving Being is going to send his own children to an eternity of Hell just because they fell into temptation then you are suggesting that God Himself is evil,their is no justice in sending someone to eternal hell,and the probly the only reason why your a christian is because you fear this place,if you want to rabbit on about the bible then i suggest you go to a different thread

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Old 03-19-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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I asked if there was any evidence that you could present to us that would confirm your belief. Now I can do this with the Bible, because it contains hundreds of prophecies that confirms who Jesus Christ is. And accurately fortells future events. Yet, what evidence is to be found in the Bhagavad Gita that would confirm it contains such advanced knowledge? A knowledge, that could only come from God. Because only the real God, knows the future.
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you only know the bible therefore your knowledge is limited,not all men are evil and if you think that the All Loving Being is going to send his own children to an eternity of Hell just because they fell into temptation then you are suggesting that God Himself is evil,their is no justice in sending someone to eternal hell,and the probly the only reason why your a christian is because you fear this place,if you want to rabbit on about the bible then i suggest you go to a different thread"
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How can you know that the bible accurately predicts future events? The future hasn't arrived yet, and so far not a single biblical prediction has been fulfilled.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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According to the Bible, the Jewish people would one day return from a worldwide exile. They would return to the land of Israel. They would retake back their city of Jerusalem. And at the sametime, we would see a sealed East Gate, that was still attached to an even older East Gate that would lead to the temple mount. And in this sametime, the people of Israel would be demanding that their third temple be rebuilt. Also, these prophecies would only occur in a time, when nations to the East of Israel would be able to field an army of 200 million, if the need arises.
As I said...all in the future...Prophesy fail.

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The furture arrived when Jesus Christ first fulfilled more then three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament 2,000 years ago. Israels existance today, has just added to the number of fulfilled prophecies.
To suggest that not a single prophecy has been fulfilled, requires you to turn a blind eye to some of our most obvious history.
Yes I know....All the prophesies from the old testament conveniently written and "fulfilled" in the new. Since the writers of the new read the old, they are not valid.....Prophesy ....EPIC fail.
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