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Old 03-02-2010, 01:55 PM
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How can one be a Christian and an atheist at the same time,that makes no sense. This is taken from your statement about first Christians.
I recently read that that was true. It was discussed in the book "Prodigal God", by Timothy Keller.

 
Old 03-02-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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jimmiej wrote:
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How can one be a Christian and an atheist at the same time,that makes no sense. This is taken from your statement about first Christians.
I recently read that that was true. It was discussed in the book "Prodigal God", by Timothy Keller.
I also don't understand how you could be both a Christian and an atheist because they have completely opposing beliefs. A Christian by definition believes in God and an atheist does not.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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How can one be a Christian and an atheist at the same time
Roman society knew no belief that did not have rituals- if you believed in a god or gods (and everyone did), you attended rituals. Christians had no rituals, so people said they were atheists. Which they weren't, of course.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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I recently read that that was true. It was discussed in the book "Prodigal God", by Timothy Keller.
I think they were being perceived as atheists by others as they had no discernible wear or even a building to worship. It goes to show that God knows the true heart it can't be determined by outer appearance.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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jimmiej wrote:

I also don't understand how you could be both a Christian and an atheist because they have completely opposing beliefs. A Christian by definition believes in God and an atheist does not.
You quoted the wrong person. I didn't say that. If you use the quote button, that won't happen.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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Religion is man-made. A personal relationship with Jesus is "God-made".

Religion expresses itself in rituals. A personal relationship with Jesus expresses itself in love.

Christianity is a religion and it is man made... Christianity has its rituals too.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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It's generally people who want to stand out and seem like they don't have the herd mentality. It's the same thing as people saying, "I'm spiritual, not religious." Ask them what their concept of god is, and you can bet you will find a concept that matches theirs in an already established religion.
Yes, this is the best way to describe it. So there is no difference, it's all in the believer's head.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:46 PM
 
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I see no real difference between the two. It seems to be simply a christian rebranding of religion, with the implication that religion is a hollow shell, devoid of meaning, but a personal relationship is what religion should aspire to.

Pretty much a 'holier than thou' attitude, but in the end, the same belief in an unseen spirit who allegedly created everything, demands worship, and has a unseemly interest in one's sexual activities.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:53 PM
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Christianity is a religion and it is man made... Christianity has its rituals too.
According to Jesus' own words, not all professing Christians are His sheep, i.e. "born again".

Matthew 7

John 10
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:21 PM
 
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According to Jesus' own words, not all professing Christians are His sheep, i.e. "born again".

Matthew 7

John 10

Which really doesn't change the fact that Christianity is a man-made religion.

Just as Jesus and Yahweh are man made gods.
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