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Old 03-03-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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Especially for those who don't follow a specific religion?



I've never had any concrete religious belief. Any interest I've had in religion was more from an academic and philosophical standpoint, rather than something i would practice and take literally.

However I've always had that "We are all one" idea stuck in my head for a long time ever since I was in middle school, and it never really went away. There's no real logic behind it, just a hunch. When we die, we go back to that "one universal soul", and that our bodies and brains are simply vessels which represent very small portions of that one soul. Animals have this too, but their biological hardware is less sophisticated and take in even smaller portions. The individuality we perceive is really just the result of the experiences, thoughts, and emotions we've accumulated over our lives while we're away from that "one soul", but ultimately individuality itself is an illusion.

One implication is that I believe as sciences progress further, it will be very possible to effectively revive people from the dead with the same memories and thoughts (unless their brain composition has gone through severe structural changes while dead, effectively rendering their "hardware" useless) since life as we know it is based on a series of working chemical and biological reactions, and that "universal soul" will simply look for the correct combination of these reactions to stick small pieces of its universal soul in.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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I agree with "we are all one" and "ultimately individuality itself is an illusion". I don't quite follow you on the dead revival thing though, fanman72.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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I agree with "we are all one" and "ultimately individuality itself is an illusion". I don't quite follow you on the dead revival thing though, fanman72.
I experience a multiplicity in the oneness during deep meditation that belies the loss of individuality. I once believed as you in the loss of Self. It was a shock to find out otherwise.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:25 PM
 
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I experience a multiplicity in the oneness during deep meditation that belies the loss of individuality. I once believed as you in the loss of Self. It was a shock to find out otherwise.
I don't believe in the loss of self, MysticPhD. I know that the "self" is just a concept built by life time conditioning and the story of ourselves that we are all pursuing in our minds most of the time.
Are you speaking of the Jung's collective psyche? Or the game of form in its endless multiplicity?
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:07 PM
 
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You really want my thoughts on the afterlife? What afterlife? I am the last surviving member of my immediate family....I do not believe that they are enjoying any "afterlife", but by now have been reduced to the basic elements from which we are all made. The afterlife is yet another construct of mankind's fear of the unknown. Death is merely the end of life and is nothing to fear....Get it?....The end.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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"Your thoughts on the afterlife?"

Death.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:39 PM
 
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You really want my thoughts on the afterlife? What afterlife? I am the last surviving member of my immediate family....I do not believe that they are enjoying any "afterlife", but by now have been reduced to the basic elements from which we are all made. The afterlife is yet another construct of mankind's fear of the unknown. Death is merely the end of life and is nothing to fear....Get it?....The end.
It's a bit more than that as this fear has been used to keep people in line with the afterlife promise of endless happiness or misery, and thus it became a "political" tool.

I remember seeing this Iraqi film a couple of years ago, I think, in which a man had this line that stuck to my mind: when I am here death is not and when death is here I am not.
So why fear something that you will never encounter?

Life is what we are and thus we are all one, life in its endless game of form.

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Old 03-03-2010, 08:10 PM
 
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There is no such thing as "afterlife" -- it's a human lie.

"Afterlife" concept was created by religion to exploit faithful follower's life (real life). A dead person has no life. What "afterlife"? Do you want live forever? It ain't gonna happen.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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Smile the next world

We are born into a temporary world where we are spirit incubators and after our body and mind die, our soul becomes spirit and joins our ancestors in the permanent world. Aho
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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We are born into a temporary world where we are spirit incubators and after our body and mind die, our soul becomes spirit and joins our ancestors in the permanent world. Aho
Spirit incubators, it sounds poetic. That we are anyway as life is spirit and our bodies and minds incubate it for a while.
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