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Old 03-05-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Oh please Dan. Wyatt is a renown fraud. Even AiG have dismissed him as a fraud and a charlatan.

Wyatt also claimed to have found Noah's ark, The Ark of the Covenant (covered in the blood of Jesus), the original stone tablets that the 10 Commandments were written on...and other equally idiotic claims.

Read;
Wyatt Archaeological Research Fraud Documentation (WAR, W.A.R.)
Well, whaddaya know. You just can't believe anything you read on the internet any more. Some people will do anything for a buck.

Not that it would have made much difference one way or the other. It always makes me shake my head, when Theists try to prove the existence of God. Exercise in futility.
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:40 PM
 
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Like hell! If god is even half as talented as Roland Emmerich!
Hehe. I had to google Roland Emmerich. Shows how much I know about movie directors.

I can just picture God brainstorming about how to pull off the Burning Bush effect for maximum drama. Or how about Elijah's "Fire From Heaven" effect? That one has possibilities!
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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wow. this gives new meaning to the words "smug" and "arrogant"
Yes, I'm a malevolent bastard. God is obviously a fraud to everyone but those with a vested interest in believing it.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:52 PM
 
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Yes, I'm a malevolent bastard. God is obviously a fraud to everyone but those with a vested interest in believing it.
Interesting . . . what vested interest could you be talking about? I have none . . . it has just been validated to my personal satisfaction. I have no doubt nor any need to believe. "It just is."
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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there's an infinite amount of gods
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Don't know how it happens, but Mystic is able to obfuscate the subject in less than one sentence.
SEE???!!! It's a MIRACLE!!! We "Don't know how it happens"

(PS - just me being silly. Welcome to the forums)
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: south saudi
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If atheist can't prove that god doesn't exist, then how do monotheist prove that their is only one god?






OK.

If I bring verses of the Koran non-Muslim can not believe here

Now I ask every atheist to think a little

There are several simple guidelines I will explain here

it is knowing this thing is clear without evidence

If we look at all the creatures in this universe, we find they are all from one source it is water .....


all creatures involved in the major needs for their survival and continuation of their presence and as water and food and sleep and the sun and the air, oxygen and carbon dioxide


All creatures need in their lives to the sun in order to continue Although it

very far, how it knew with our need and know of our existence on this small planet ....?


System of life in the universe be ONE

All creatures had a beginning, and produce ....had one end is death and each creature had the same spirit one ....


If there were two gods ..... Then there will be a major contradiction between them if one wants something and wants the other reflected


What will happen in this universe .. I/YOU/WE will see the devastation and destruction


Glorification of the One God the Lord of the universe and Lord of everything


Praise and veneration to God (allah)



jmoool
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Now I ask every atheist to think a little

All creatures need in their lives to the sun in order to continue .......
OK, I've thought a little!

Ummmm.......worms? Bats and other nocturnal creatures? Fish that live where no sunlight reaches?
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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it is knowing this thing is clear without evidence

If we look at all the creatures in this universe, we find they are all from one source it is water .....
This is incoherent. You cannot look at all creatures in this universe because you only have access to creatures on Earth. Life as we know it can only exist with water. It's only an assumption we've made based on the life on Earth.


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all creatures involved in the major needs for their survival and continuation of their presence and as water and food and sleep and the sun and the air, oxygen and carbon dioxide
Wrong. They need a source of energy. Read: Volcanic vent microbes that survive without sunlight. Their source of energy comes from the vents, not the sun. They don't breath oxygen either, but sulfuric acid!

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All creatures need in their lives to the sun in order to continue Although it
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very far, how it knew with our need and know of our existence on this small planet ....?
Did you just anthropomorphize the sun?

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System of life in the universe be ONE
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All creatures had a beginning, and produce ....had one end is death and each creature had the same spirit one ....
Again, you only have access to life on Earth, not the universe. And the metaphysical\supernatural spirit doesn't exist. Spirit literally means breath. The Greeks realized that when someone died they no longer had breath. Clear connection is that the breath was the life force. Also the reason "spirits talk to us" when the wind blows.

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If there were two gods ..... Then there will be a major contradiction between them if one wants something and wants the other reflected


What will happen in this universe .. I/YOU/WE will see the devastation and destruction
Some *huge* leaps in logic you're making. There could be many gods all responsible for their own parts of human nature, like Love, Hate, War, Peace, etc. They can contradict because there is no reasoning that they cannot contradict one another. It's a big ol' democracy in Valhalla. Majority wins.

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Glorification of the One God the Lord of the universe and Lord of everything


Praise and veneration to God (allah)
That's a non-sequitur. Your thinking of polytheism is biased on that gods must be perfect and non-contradictory. They surely can be. Humans are just play things to gods, and human destruction is all part of their wills and practices.

Of course, you haven't really explained why an unthinking unfeeling entity would even care that you glorify it in the process.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: south saudi
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OK, I've thought a little!

Ummmm.......worms? Bats and other nocturnal creatures? Fish that live where no sunlight reaches?


Whatever They share one thing it called ( need)

Do you know one in this life does not need ?...

This indicates the existence of God...

We are always in this life our needs Similar

Do you know someone who does not eat does not drink ...

Does not get sick... does not sleep...even joy in sorrow ..

Even in the created Our bodies ...

That our Lord is one
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