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Old 04-24-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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Science is simply the study of what can be seen and proven. The Bible states where it's all coming from and the authority and power behind things seen...and unseen. Kent is not my hero, Jesus is. Kent is simply showing where and who is behind the lies in the science books and how people like you fail to see even the 'science' in what is written.
There is a difference between the studying of a watch, and the knowledge of who fashioned it.
So why are there so many "scientific theories"? They are best guesses, at best.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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Communist govts (which I assume you are talking about) did not kill their people "because of atheism". They killed their people for many reasons but since Atheism itself isn't a principle, cause, philosophy, or belief system which people fight, die, or kill for, it makes no sense to accuse atheism as the cause. Being killed by an atheist is no more being killed in the name of atheism than being killed by a tall person is being killed in the name of tallness.

People were killed in communist nations for a lot of different reasons. Some were communists who disagreed with those in power and were killed because of that. Some were anti-communists opposed the government and were killed for that. Some were simply in the way or inconvenient and were killed for that. These are political disagreements that people were being killed over, not murder in the name of atheism.

The idea of communist countries killing because they were atheists is a myth prepetrated by religionists so atheists would look even more evil. You continuing to repeat this falsehood does nothing to help atheists and religionists come together, it just continues to perpetrate a lie.
Millions of people were killed because there is no morality in communism. The government is your religion.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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Millions of people were killed because there is no morality in communism. The government is your religion.
Are you claiming there is morality in any political theory?
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Please. inform us.
Didn't you just say that you have a keen interest in physics and astronomy? If so you should be able to inform yourself...

By the way a theory in science is not the same as a layman's concept of the word. Creationists often argue that evolution is "only a theory and cannot be proven."

Words have precise meanings in science. For example, 'theory', 'law', and 'hypothesis' don't all mean the same thing. Outside of science, you might say something is 'just a theory', meaning it's supposition that may or may not be true. In science, a theory is an explanation that generally is accepted to be true.

Scientific Hypothesis, Theory, Law Definitions
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:12 PM
 
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It's a pithy appeal to authority. I just enjoy watching the same old arguments being used, and the clever rejections of them.
Hey, check out my post #44 & #45 in the God belief should die off around the time Santa Claus does thread.
I was surprised not to see you represent in that thread. A real snarkfest...even a GREAT cartoon. Check it out. Add some of that real high quality "Snark Enhanced Konration Theory" I have learned to enjoy.

We all rehash our arguments. At least I do my best to add some fresh creativity to their presentation, so they are more interesting than the first 20 times.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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We exist. That is proof enough of God for me. Atheists think that Creationism and Evolution cannot work together. evolution is a theory.

How the Universe was created is inconsequential to me. I believe that God created all that we see. How it was done will remain a mystery. That doesn't mean that we should not continue looking. I, for instance am very interested in Astronomy and Physics. I can't get enough of it!
If you really are into physics and astronomy then you should know the difference between a scientific theory and a layman's theory. Evolution is a scientific theory. Also, the fact that we don't know how the universe began doesn't mean god is the explanation. There currently is no empirical explanation for how the universe began. It follows that 'I don't know' is the most rational claim about the origins of the universe.
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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If you really are into physics and astronomy then you should know the difference between a scientific theory and a layman's theory. Evolution is a scientific theory. Also, the fact that we don't know how the universe began doesn't mean god is the explanation. There currently is no empirical explanation for how the universe began. It follows that 'I don't know' is the most rational claim about the origins of the universe.
Could it have made itself? With all of its highly complex systems?
How can order emerge from chaos without assistance and why does it all make sense to a rational mind?
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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CB300: Evolution of complex organs
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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Please explain to me how/why the conclusion (supposition?) is drawn::: Evolution (of whatever) = There is no God.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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Please explain to me how/why the conclusion (supposition?) is drawn::: Evolution (of whatever) = There is no God.
Occam's Razor.
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