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Old 05-05-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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Some things in the bible are true but not all.
So, which things are not true in the Bible? And don't just say something is not true without some proof. Opinion is fine, but it doesn't pay the bills.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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How long have you got?
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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IMO, that's almost like asking which parts of Transformers 2 are real.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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No Genesis creation.
Humanity is much more than 6000 years old as we know from cave paintings and suchlike and we evolved from other ape like creatures, being closely related to chimpanzees as proven by hominid fossil record, DNA, endogenous retroviruses, pseudogenes etc.

No Noachian Flood.
The survival of Egypt's "Old Kingdom", and the total lack of all the massive geological evidence that a recent worldwide inundation would inevitably leave behind (massive runoff channels, massive water erosion, total disruption of Greenland and Antarctic ice-sheet layers, and so forth).

No Tower of Babel
Pretty self-explanatory, this. No sign of any pre-Babel "common language" in written records, no sign of any post-Babel "confusion of languages" towards the end of the second millennium BCE (the time of Babel).

No Exodus.
No trace of the movement of several million people through the Sinai desert, no trace of their supposed encampment at Kadesh Barnea for many years.

No Conquest of Caanan.
The Hebrews are Caananites. Their language evolved from Caananite (after the supposed Exodus), and their religion evolved from Caananite polytheism. We know this from Caananite records (notably the Ugaritic texts).

No "Golden Age" of Solomon.
This "great empire" was never mentioned in the records of other surrounding civilizations.

Failure of Ezekiel's "Tyre Prophecy".
Ezekiel falsely predicted that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon would take and permanently destroy Tyre. But Tyre survived Nebby's 13-year siege. Apologists have sought to cut this prophecy into 2 parts and have Alexander fulfil the second part centuries later (as he DID take Tyre), but this merely creates two failures where there was previously one: Nebby failed to take Tyre as prophesied, Alex failed to permanently destroy Tyre as prophesied.

Failure of Ezekiel's "Egypt Prophecy".
After the failure of the Tyre prophecy, Ezekiel promised Egypt to Nebby as compensation. Nebby was to ransack Egypt so thoroughly that it would be uninhabited for 40 years. Historical records show that this did not happen.

Failure of the "Babylon Prophecy" (Isaiah and Jeremiah).
Both of these prophesied that the Medes would take and permanently destroy Babylon. But the Medes were conquered by the Persians, who then went on to peacefully take (and not destroy) Babylon.

Numerous historical inaccuracies in Daniel.
While Daniel was supposedly written in the 6th century BC, it was actually written four centuries later and gets many details wrong.

Herod/Quirinius issue (Luke's Jesus born a decade after Matthew's Jesus).
Matthew's Jesus was born in Herod's time: Luke's Jesus was born at least a decade later, when Quirinius was governor of the region (as confirmed by various historical sources).

No "Massacre of the Innocents".
We have accounts from Herod's enemies, describing his various "crimes". The Massacre is not among them. It was invented by Matthew to draw a parallel between Jesus and Moses (who also supposedly survived an infant massacre, by Pharaoh).

No "zombie invasion of Jerusalem" or "supernatural darkness" (easily-noticed large-scale miracles).
Again, pretty self-explanatory. The dead supposedly rose from their graves and wandered about in Jerusalem, and there was supposedly a supernatural darkness for several hours: numerous historians in the vicinity failed to notice these, as did all the gospel authors except one: obviously invented.

Will that do to go on with?



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Old 05-05-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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The flood. That alone is enough to cast massive doubt on the scientific veracity of the Bibble.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Lethbridge, AB
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A lot of it has basis in historical fact. The telling of it in the bible tries to add in reasons for it (Mostly, "God did it, because we were good/bad"). Most of the historical books (Joshua through to Esther, if memory serves) are like that. Even Noah's ark is plausible in that context. When the glaciers receded at the end of the last ice age, a lot of things got wet (All the places that are currently wet). It's possible some guy who lived by the ocean, and who was smarter than the average farmer, built a boat, put on his livestock and got the hell out of dodge.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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The flood, creationism, water turning into wine, walking on water,feeding 5,000 people with some fish and a loaf of bread, healing a leper with the touch of a hand, burning Sodom and Gomorrah to the ground, resurrection of dead people,parting of the Dead Sea etc.
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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IMO, that's almost like asking which parts of Transformers 2 are real.
But it begs the question: Was transformers 1 or 2 more real? Or the origional cartoon? Or the remake of the origional cartoon? Damn, this really IS like the bible.
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Bats are not birds and grasshoppers do not have four legs.
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Yeah, but how about that talking snake? Oh, you must believe that happened. NOT!
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