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Old 03-17-2010, 03:11 AM
 
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Folks sometimes do not realize that as Texas goes...so goes much of the nation when it comes to making decisions concerning what our children will be taught in school. It has to do with the volume of textbooks published and sold in the great state.

Conservatives have made an end run going against the recommendations of many professors and high school teachers around the nation. The study and recommendations were made a year ago and in the eleventh hour the Texas conservatives have brought about finalization which for the most part ignore any professional views contrary to their own.

A couple of the changes they are about to make:

Replace any reference to our nation being a "democracy" and insert "constitutional republic" in it's place

In the group which has always been given credit for influencing the formation of the original U S government Thomas Jefferson, a deist, has been replaced by Calvin, a theist.

This should give you an idea of the magnitude of other basic changes.

Recently here in my state of Tennessee the boards of education around the state have added a "bible history" class for high school students. I have lived in this state for 75 years and let me tell you real quick what that will turn into...a Sunday school class!!

The church always rears up on it's hind legs when it's overall attendance and amount of donations begins to decline and this is the worst for them it's ever been. The Internet is the main reason the word is getting around that it's not so terrible to believe that Christianity is based upon 2000 year old Jewish fairy tales.

The public has until sometime in May to voice any protests to what they are about to do.

The Truth Will Set You Free!!
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Kentucky's been working on the 'bible as literature' thing, too, and like Tennessee it's guaranteed to wind up being a "Bible as truth" class.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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I guess it looks like the ACLU is going to be kept pretty busy over the next couple years..
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I read an article on this a few days ago, I believe. It's also incredibly racist. They want all Hispanics who fought along side whites at the Alamo to not be acknowledged...at all.

What's amusing is these same people are usually the ones who whine about political correctness and revisionist history. It would seem they don't mind revisionist history so long as it's their version of it.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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I don't agree with these religious bastiges either, but a couple of points on the OP.

The government *is* a republic, and it has a Constitution. It is also engages democratic methods. So constitutional republic is closer to accurate than democracy,but not as accurate as "democratic constitutional republic" would be.

And neither Jefferson nor Calvin were involved in the formation of the original US government, The Articles of Confederation.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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neither Jefferson nor Calvin were involved in the formation of the original US government, The Articles of Confederation.
Thank goodness my hero Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with that mess. The Articles of Confederation had some serious weaknesses:

1) Under the Articles there was only a single legislature so that there was no separation of powers.

2) The central government under the Articles was too weak since the majority of the power rested with the states.

3) Congress, under the Articles, did not have the power to tax which meant that they could never put their finances in order.

4) In order to change or amend the Articles, unanimous approval of the states was required which essentially meant that changes to the Articles were impossible.

5) For any major laws to pass they had to be approved by 9 of the 13 states which proved difficult to do so that even the normal business of running a government was difficult.

6) Under the Articles, Congress did not have the power to regulate commerce which will cause competition between states as well as diplomatic issues


One more thing...Calvin was much more a Christian than a patriot. I don't think we ever needed a theocracy.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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In the group which has always been given credit for influencing the formation of the original U S government Thomas Jefferson, a deist, has been replaced by Calvin, a theist.
That is a damn shame. TJ was the man! My favorite founding father.

I really wish that the word "conservative" had not been co-opted by the Religious Right (thanks Bush 1). It used to mean something good. I'll just stick with Libertarian...it works.

Oh Texas...what are you doing? Hate to see my home state going there.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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Thank goodness my hero Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with that mess. The Articles of Confederation had some serious weaknesses:

1) Under the Articles there was only a single legislature so that there was no separation of powers.

2) The central government under the Articles was too weak since the majority of the power rested with the states.

3) Congress, under the Articles, did not have the power to tax which meant that they could never put their finances in order.

4) In order to change or amend the Articles, unanimous approval of the states was required which essentially meant that changes to the Articles were impossible.

5) For any major laws to pass they had to be approved by 9 of the 13 states which proved difficult to do so that even the normal business of running a government was difficult.

6) Under the Articles, Congress did not have the power to regulate commerce which will cause competition between states as well as diplomatic issues

Funny, with the exception of separation of powers bit, I see those as pros, not cons.
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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Funny, with the exception of separation of powers bit, I see those as pros, not cons.
So what you really want is total "state's rights"

That's not a United States
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