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Old 03-23-2010, 02:41 PM
 
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Boy did I read that wrong! Sorry dobeable!
no problem i can see how that could be read wrong

anyway i always thought the reverend was a guy so now im more the wiser

sorry rev but ya never told me
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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Did the innocent children and babies in Sodom or in Noah's genocidal flood deserve the death that that God gave them?

If He is to punish in hell, why punish on earth?

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DL
obviously they did or they wouldnt be punished

theres no such thing as eternal hell it dosent make sense to an all loving God its just a misconception
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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Oh ye of little faith.

As a father, I want my children to meet or best whatever I am.

To think that our heavenly father would want less for his children would mean that man has a better standards.

Are we not all sons of God?

Do ye not know that ye are Gods.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are we being asked to do the impossible?

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DL
what your sayin is kinda true but perfection could take millions of lifetimes somethin the bible dosent mention or maybe it did before emperor constantine decided to butcher it

we will never be on the same level as God He will always be master and we will always be suburdinate just as Jesus was suburdinate to His heavenly father

so bye all means no matter how great you are youll still never be the greatest

perfection is not immposible if it was then Jesus wouldnt have said it -our original state of being is pure love and god knows this of us thats what He expects from us but He also knows that we are stuck in illusion and the way out can take a very long time or can be done in one lifetime but in the end we all go back home back to Godhead were we live eternally full of bliss and knowledge
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Your God of love sure likes to express it by killing humans.

You break the 1 st commandment by placing man above God in the creation of evil. Oh well.

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DL
No, humans kill humans and blame it on God. Humans don't like to take the blame for their own actions.

God is above all no matter what you may think.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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You would not make much of a father if you did not correct your children.
Let them put their hands or face in the fire then.
It is not your duty to correct them. Let them burn a bit. That will teach them a lesson and the scars do not matter.

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DL
You gently correct and guide children. You don't threaten or abuse them. Not sure how you raise your own children but I raise mine with Love and understanding. I put myself in their position. If you are not perfect, how can you expect them to be perfect.
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Old 03-24-2010, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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How evil can you get! He created the human race!

More evil and sadistic: the human race is still in existence!
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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That depends on what God we're talking about here. It can be hard to find one redeeming quality in the christian God. If for some reason I ever felt the need to believe, He'd be at the very bottom of my list. Yeah, I'd classify that God as evil.

Personal gods? Well, that's different. They tend to be the more warm and fuzzy types. Anything good comes from them; anything bad is from somewhere else. They love everyone. Hell, they are love itself. Those belong in the good category, I guess you could say.
It is mostly a discussion of Bible god but you have it pretty well right and that thinking matches that of many Christians who give God all credit for good and no blame for evil even as they say He created evil.

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DL
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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obviously they did or they wouldnt be punished

theres no such thing as eternal hell it dosent make sense to an all loving God its just a misconception
Christian who love to hate will be disappointed that one of their long held beliefs is just a misconception.

What is the truth then for God and hell?

What could children and babies possibly do that would deserve their death?

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DL
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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what your sayin is kinda true but perfection could take millions of lifetimes somethin the bible dosent mention or maybe it did before emperor constantine decided to butcher it

we will never be on the same level as God He will always be master and we will always be suburdinate just as Jesus was suburdinate to His heavenly father
So he is being subordinate to his father when he tells us that the gates of heaven are only subject to his judgment?

Only through me--effectively retires the father and holy spirit.

As a parent, do you want your children to be subordinate to you or do you want them to equal or best whatever you are?

If you want them to exceed what you are then why would you think that our heavenly father would not want the same for us?

Do ye not know that ye are Gods?

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DL
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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No, humans kill humans and blame it on God. Humans don't like to take the blame for their own actions.

God is above all no matter what you may think.
Exactly. God's evil is above all others. He gets the gold.

The O T has humans killing humans on Gods command.

Who is responsible for those deaths?

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DL
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