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View Poll Results: What kind of Christian would Jesus be?
Catholic 2 4.88%
Baptist 1 2.44%
Pentecostal 1 2.44%
Evangelical 4 9.76%
Eastern Orthodox 0 0%
Oriental Orthodox 0 0%
Anglican 2 4.88%
Mormon 3 7.32%
Presbyterian 0 0%
Other 28 68.29%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-27-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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I can't speak for Satan
Most of us do, all the time.

 
Old 03-27-2010, 07:11 AM
 
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Most of us do, all the time.
who's "us"?
 
Old 03-27-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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who's "us"?
Humanity.
 
Old 03-27-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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Skye: Jesus is in a sect of his own given to him by his Father in Heaven. The religions we hear about now are mans termanology. He is the Divine, and nothing from man here on Earth is associated with him. Think about that?
 
Old 03-28-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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because he was a Jewish teacher not a god....... He didnt see himself as a god either... In fact he had no intention of starting a new religion he wanted to reform his own..... He was a Jew and died as a Jew and if he were here right now he would be getting ready for Passover....
Many Jews (during Jesus' time) believed He was the Messiah. Jews were his disciples & wrote the NT. Jesus said He was God. John called Him God & the Creator. Thomas called Him God. Peter believed Him God. Matthew (a Jew) wrote his book to try to convince Jews that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus said He came to bring a new covenant. He butted heads with the Jewish teachers. Jesus said He came to offer His life as a "ransom" for many. He claimed to be the fulfillment of prophecy.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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I think it is not a question of Will Jesus be a believer in Human based bent religions...
Jesus believes in the Father of creation...And in that lies where his heart is.

Jesus does not have to fit into the boxes you ask us to select from.

Jesus believes in he who sent him.

And God is the Father of the Son, and the Father is in the Son, for the Son knows the Father is abiding by Truth.

So in regards to the faiths/Religions that claim to be the only one true religion...etc..etc.

Jesus says they proclaim with their lips, but do not do with their hands, nor is it in their minds or hearts to Do what God has said to, or to conform to the reasons Why God made us...Which is clearly made known at the begining of the Holy Bible.

So where is Eden...and if multiplied by us...Edens?...containing all good things God has Given us?

That is the religion Jesus will engage in....For it is abiding in that, that time goes on...forever?....it might be the only way...As Jesus says..."those who do the will of the Father, shall enter paradise"...SO we know the Commandments and laws , precepts, and covenants are all part of the second degree of salvation... anf the first degree of salvation is restoration of something taken in disobediance...
To undo what was done wrong...
TO reverse, to make new, to correct the error Adam and Eve made with God.

SO sinless under the commandments, covenants, precepts..and the baptismal..makes us clean enough to stand ready and do what God wants....EDENS!

How far bent out of time are we to that principle?...and is Jesus going to follow any of those religions that have plunged the earth into Darkness and false Profits and gains in a polluted, bio hazard , and constant blood bath of human sacrifices into war?

I think Not!

I do however believe Jesus will still sound off, and fulfill God's word and will, to the letter of the words and laws of God...What ever they may be?

Well I believe Mother Nature is in regards part of the equation...it may be wild, but can be made tame...it does not change the Ideals or the principles...it just put them into Order.
So all things remain Good God made.

And with that word of God..Edens can be made...and sinlessness can be achieved...and harmony with the whole is possible...for God has already done it in the begining...and so we too can do what God has done.. for we are his children....

I think the churches have forgotten that Idea...and they make themselves more important, and claim holiness...etc...when it is the common man and women that is God's desire to reserect to perfection...and everlasting estates...But sinlessness is required to restore THE HOLY PLANTS and make sound realities that can stand the tests of time with them all.

Humankind is failing...because they have made themselves a Idol based on lies, and delusion.
And they now believe because they have not enough of it...they cannot help life.
That is how strong the delusion is with them.
And they claim because they do not have enough...many must die due to sickness, and suffering in the world...
And that is another lie they tell!

Some claim technology is part of the evolution of Humankind....But when does it come to mind that technology is polluting the planet with out regard for ALL LIFE...to which we draw our basic needs from...Pollute the whole and we pollute ourselves...
Is that what Technology is Not saying, that is Oh so true if we look at the world today?...

We need more, More jobs that pollute..so we can have sound economies...Does not compute!...and that is the beast the idol has created...That the churches of this world, have not done anything about...for if they Followed the words of God...EDENS would be the utmost thing on everyones mind to do!

Think about it.

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Old 03-28-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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Many Jews (during Jesus' time) believed He was the Messiah. Jews were his disciples & wrote the NT. Jesus said He was God. John called Him God & the Creator. Thomas called Him God. Peter believed Him God. Matthew (a Jew) wrote his book to try to convince Jews that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus said He came to bring a new covenant. He butted heads with the Jewish teachers. Jesus said He came to offer His life as a "ransom" for many. He claimed to be the fulfillment of prophecy.
CORRECTION: Someone said that Jesus [allegedly] implied he was god.


Believing Jesus to be god is no more a validation that Jesus was god than my little daughter believing I can do ANYTHING makes that a reality.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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CORRECTION: Someone said that Jesus [allegedly] implied he was god.

Yes, those who lived & walked with Jesus during His ministry & later gave their life in His service.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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If the truth is not with you, for you were never told the truth...and one came and told you, and showed you, and you took the truth in, and found it sound and always true...
The truth would be in you ...and you would be part of the truth...for in the truth not being in you, and then being in you, you become part of the truth.

Same Goes with God and Son...God made the Son...and so in the making, God put the truth in him...that was not in him before he was made here....
And with the Truth in him, after learning the words of God as a child, and then doing them...he found the truth was with him.
And so the Father abides in the Son, and the Son abides by the Father...and that is how that Seems to flurish into the truth of Jesus.

Now about the Children of God...that is US...or some of US...or a few Of US..who do what God has asked, and we do it sinlessly...Is part of the creation principle...God asked first, and then they all helped out...and made EDEN...Those are the helpers of God.
See...
 
Old 03-28-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Many Jews (during Jesus' time) believed He was the Messiah. Jews were his disciples & wrote the NT. Jesus said He was God. John called Him God & the Creator. Thomas called Him God. Peter believed Him God. Matthew (a Jew) wrote his book to try to convince Jews that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus said He came to bring a new covenant. He butted heads with the Jewish teachers. Jesus said He came to offer His life as a "ransom" for many. He claimed to be the fulfillment of prophecy.
Jesus was not G-d and his followers made him a god after he died. He was a Jew and practiced the tradition of Judaism and when he died he was still a Jew.. Just like Abraham did not sacrifice his son and a lamb was given in his son's place. Human sacrifice is not allowed. A human may not die for sins we are all responsible for our sins and our behavior. Jesus wanted to reform the Judaism of his time. He did not want to start a new religion. Its to bad what he wanted has been so misunderstood.
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