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Old 03-24-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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And how exactly did you acquire such idea? How do you know you got the right idea of "God"?
My idea of God came from Him and not so much of being taught of Him. He is my Father, a God greater than any idol. How do I know, because He said it Himself and tells me that I am His very own, His daughter? It's not really that hard. It use to be. I made things so hard that I was missing the simple things that God was showing me and telling me. God is so gentle and sweet now, I understand who and what He was saying to me all along. That He is my Father and that I am His daughter, that He loved me so much, He created me just for Him. How did I aquire an idea, well from Him and Him telling me Himself and revealing Himself to me in such a way, I couldn't help but know that He was real and that He loved me?
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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My idea of God came from Him and not so much of being taught of Him. He is my Father, a God greater than any idol. How do I know, because He said it Himself and tells me that I am His very own, His daughter? It's not really that hard. It use to be. I made things so hard that I was missing the simple things that God was showing me and telling me. God is so gentle and sweet now, I understand who and what He was saying to me all along. That He is my Father and that I am His daughter, that He loved me so much, He created me just for Him. How did I aquire an idea, well from Him and Him telling me Himself and revealing Himself to me in such a way, I couldn't help but know that He was real and that He loved me?
Are you sure this "loving father" of yours is not gonna toss you into hell? All religions are coercive systems.
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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...In which case, you probably aren't all that interested in anyone's beliefs about God, are you? That, in turn, raises the question of why you started this thread. Was it just to argue a case?
You might be right but a demon in hell or a person couldn't take away who God is and what He is to His people. People may mock but in the end, they will look foolish by what they have done. I am not saying that this person is doing this, I am only saying. In the bible it says always be ready to give an explanation and defend what we believe and our faith. Atheists and nonbelievers don't really bother me, it is a simple question that some just don't understand at times, because they don't have a relationship with Him. So, it could be valuable to share with them why we believe what we do and why we love God so much. Because that is why some atheists ask the question, because some don't understand how we or some can love someone they don't know or understand, because some have closed themselves off, and some simply prefer to stay in darkness. Anyway, God is everything to me and nothing can take that away. What ever a person or this person says, well, it want hurt or destroy who God is, even though some try so desperately too. I find it odd that atheist think and talk about God more than most believers because they are seeking to understand that truth. Thats cool. Most mockers really want to know the truth, that is why they carry on the way that they do. This person may really want to know the truth, but we will see.
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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Are you sure this "loving father" of yours is not gonna toss you into hell? All religions are coercive systems.
I will only go to hell if I turn away from Him and place myself in that position. So, no, I love my Father and truth that He will do what He says that He will do. My relationship with my God is not that hard, even though I made it hard in the beginning. So, no, I am perfectly safe where I am, and have the greatest joy and peace that I have ever had. I love this life and wouldn't want it any other way.

I'll be honest, I find your comment really weak and lame. The relationship that I have with God, religion and a system didn't teach me.

It's funny but I see that you fall in the trend of not understanding the difference between a relationshop and religion. I don't have a religion, I have a relationship with Jesus. There is a difference. I am not religious and never want to be. I love God and He expresses His love toward me. That has nothing to do with religion. Sad you don't know or understand the difference. That is why people lack and say things the way that they do, because they don't understand the difference and group everyone in the same group. Are all atheists the same, are you the same as the atheists who slander christians, or the same as those who killed atheists. No, I don't think,. So, you should at least if you are going to say anything about religion or me, you should atleast understand why I feel the say that I do, because grouping me into a religion that I am not even in.

It seems silly to me or you are a troll. You ask a person why they do something, and then say well will your Father send you to hell. Completely silly. But I am not surprised, and was right to say we will find out your motive. So, sad. Some things never change. A complete waste of time. Have fun with your thread. LOL, if you really want to understand why people love God, you should learn a better approach. Right now you only look like someone who is desperate and only want to argue, who has nothing better to do.

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Old 03-24-2010, 10:23 PM
 
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Are you sure this "loving father" of yours is not gonna toss you into hell? All religions are coercive systems.
i wonder if lucifer has a thrermostat in hell, i figure if i get sent there i will try to sabotage it, cross the wires or something.. i will be a hero in hell i will give that devil such a hard time he will cast me straight into heaven
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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this post took an odd turn...

but to me, god is the energy that drives us all toward good, and also that feeling of calm satisfaction you get when things are going well.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Planet Water
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And how exactly did you acquire such idea? How do you know you got the right idea of "God"?
I explain on an example.
"When council was necessary to people. The best went to an idol (the Idol -" true in a valley \ field). It was before an idol and recollected councils and experience of ancestors. Then told to people.
In what a difference between the Idol and "God" of Iegova? The difference is. We know that relatives of Moiseja had idols. But. God Iegova told Moiseju how to deceive people and tsars and to derive material benefit (For example. Has given the wife to the Pharaoh for reception of riches).
Why there is no Idol " God " ? Why it is impossible to mention more often his name? Here it is interesting...
It could not be shown to people... Yes. People could be horrified увидив a monster! Therefore have thought up "cloud" and the name "God"...
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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I explain on an example.
"When council was necessary to people. The best went to an idol (the Idol -" true in a valley \ field). It was before an idol and recollected councils and experience of ancestors. Then told to people.
In what a difference between the Idol and "God" of Iegova? The difference is. We know that relatives of Moiseja had idols. But. God Iegova told Moiseju how to deceive people and tsars and to derive material benefit (For example. Has given the wife to the Pharaoh for reception of riches).
Why there is no Idol " God " ? Why it is impossible to mention more often his name? Here it is interesting...
It could not be shown to people... Yes. People could be horrified увидив a monster! Therefore have thought up "cloud" and the name "God"...
Still. When experience of ancestors did not help. People had the right to abuse an idol. Imagine... Catholics abuse God Iegova.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Well, I'm pretty much a Taoist and a Pantheist, so I think that what some people refer to as God is basically an all-pervading, Universal sort of life Force, which can be tapped into for inner peace and emotional clarity and guidance. But it is NOT a personal force. It cares not a fig if you drink or smoke or lie or cheat or harbor a fondness for pornography. However, the caveat here is that doing those things--along with posessing a big ego--will serve as a sort of veil to block you from tapping into this Force. I think if we blend together some of the tenets of Taoism & Pantheism and Zen Buddhism--mainly its meditative aspects, we can get pretty close to God's true nature. The biologist Rupert Sheldrake has theorized about Morphic Resonance. This offers us a brief glimpse of how God works in nature. Carl Jung theorized about synchronicity: this offers is a peek of how God works in our lives--IF we search for it. Notice I said "it" instead of "Him" as I want to reiterate that I don't believe in a personal God.
How do I know this is the "right" version of God? I don't. It's merely what I've been able to glean from my searching and experience.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:20 PM
 
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Well, everyone has a different version of what "God" is. The idea of "God" came from some anecdotal hearsay. Everyone tries to put words in God's mouth. No one really knows what "God" is -- then it must be bull.
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