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View Poll Results: would God punish His children forever
definitely 9 24.32%
never in an eternity would He 28 75.68%
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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A soul is simply, a human life. I did not exist, prior to my birth, and if I die I will cease exist until I'm ressurrected. A human being use their brain to process every though, either subconcious or concious. When a human being dies, that brain, decomposes rendering it useless and non existant, which what happens to our conciousness. Immortality is reserved for God alone. The reason will live forever in heaven is because we will once again have acces to the tree of life, not because we are innately immortal. One of Satan's biggest lies, circulated throught the centuries, is this notion of an immortal soul/spirit.
i just wachted a video about the history of satan on one of the other threads-wow that was eye opening.

right so you think this is our only life-then why are some people suffering alot more than others why are there children starving,being raped and murdered-why wouldnt God have us live an equal life and not have so much diversity
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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A soul is simply, a human life. I did not exist, prior to my birth, and if I die I will cease exist until I'm ressurrected. A human being use their brain to process every though, either subconcious or concious. When a human being dies, that brain, decomposes rendering it useless and non existant, which what happens to our conciousness. Immortality is reserved for God alone. The reason will live forever in heaven is because we will once again have acces to the tree of life, not because we are innately immortal. One of Satan's biggest lies, circulated throught the centuries, is this notion of an immortal soul/spirit.
Actually, you existed prior to this material life. You chose the body you now occupy and when you leave that body, you will wake up in the spirit world where you will continue your life on the many mansion worlds that Jesus so often talked about.

You will never return to the material world. You continue with your same beliefs, ideas and thoughts in the spirit world.

The soul has the potential to become immortal. Not all choose it. It is only up to you if you want to live for all eternity or not. Only an immortal soul can see God as immortality only comes with Divine Love. If you do not acquire It, you will remain as the perfect man as our first parents were before their fall.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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i just wachted a video about the history of satan on one of the other threads-wow that was eye opening.

right so you think this is our only life-then why are some people suffering alot more than others why are there children starving,being raped and murdered-why wouldnt God have us live an equal life and not have so much diversity
There is suffering in this world because we live in a state of sin. The world was perfect before man sinned, & will be again when Jesus brings us the New Heaven & New Earth.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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i just wachted a video about the history of satan on one of the other threads-wow that was eye opening.

right so you think this is our only life-then why are some people suffering alot more than others why are there children starving,being raped and murdered-why wouldnt God have us live an equal life and not have so much diversity
We suffer because of free will. The unjust and the just alike live in the same place whereas in the spirit world, we are seperated according to our soul condition.

If our first parents had not fallen, we would not see the suffering we see today and, most likely, we would be in Light and Life. This wolrd is not our only life. The spirit world is where the innocent stay innocent and the unjust will have to pay to the last farthing. A good soul will not abide in the same mansion world as a murderer or rapist. No more hunger or pain.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:45 PM
 
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i dont think someone would be punished if they didnt deserve it thats why i beleive in karma and reincarnation- it makes perfect sense.
ive already had the discussion with a few of yas on one of my other threads-WEVE ALWAYS EXISTED-i dont want to go through it again but feel free to look back over it again if yas want
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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i just wachted a video about the history of satan on one of the other threads-wow that was eye opening.

right so you think this is our only life-then why are some people suffering alot more than others why are there children starving,being raped and murdered-why wouldnt God have us live an equal life and not have so much diversity
Sin and choice are the answers to why those things happen. I never said though that this was our only life. God does promise eternal life to those that want it. At Christ 2nd coming, there will be a resurrection of those that chose God, and then they, along with those currently living who chose God, will receive eternal life. There is life after death, however it is not immediately after death and life is never absent a physical body.
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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i dont think someone would be punished if they didnt deserve it
Who or what determines if they deserve it? Is there a criteria?

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Old 03-30-2010, 02:21 PM
 
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Sin and choice are the answers to why those things happen. I never said though that this was our only life. God does promise eternal life to those that want it. At Christ 2nd coming, there will be a resurrection of those that chose God, and then they, along with those currently living who chose God, will receive eternal life. There is life after death, however it is not immediately after death and life is never absent a physical body.
im sure theres alot of people who had experience with ghosts who would disagree
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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Who or what determines if they derve it? Is there a criteria?
its called karma m8-sometimes it appears that people get away with atrocities in this life but they cant run or hide from God-and instead of throwing them into eternal hell which is an atrocity in itself-they have to come back and face the music-there are billions of planets and billions of bodies we can be born into all depends on how we live our lives-this life will determine our next life until we become pure again-then we will be eligible to enter the kingdom of God-which is a universe in itself
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Old 03-30-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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its called karma m8-sometimes it appears that people get away with atrocities in this life but they cant run or hide from God-and instead of throwing them into eternal hell which is an atrocity in itself-they have to come back and face the music-there are billions of planets and billions of bodies we can be born into all depends on how we live our lives-this life will determine our next life until we become pure again-then we will be eligible to enter the kingdom of God-which is a universe in itself
What is the source for this belief? And my name is Jimmie, not m8.
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